Drew Dowdell

understood, I'd just watch out for Catera stigma, since that's what I immediately thought when I saw it. <though I've always thought the Catera was attractive>

in case you haven't noticed, we produce much of our own counter point. How many times have we heard the RWD rants, the Pushrod rants, the anti-badge engineering rants? While those same people generally will also have good things to say about GM. They are GM's biggest fans and harshest critics. Toyoguy, on the other hand, does none of the "biggest fan" part. His sole purpose here is to critique and spin.

Awesome chops guys. The only thing I'd change would be the headlights, they need to be more vertical so you don't get a "It looks like a Catera" I realize that would be hard to do in the chop, but you guys did such great work as is.

I think the LX cars are an example of thinking inside the box.... a big one.... with a waffle iron for a grill.

Chris, are those tail lights L.E.D.?

There is a motorcycle "gang" that frequently follows the WBC around to the funeral they attend and drown out and visibly block the Phelps gang. It originally consisted of just veterans, but now has grown to a national network of motorcyclists who gather simply to thwart Fred Phelps.

Definately interested in the dinner. I'm going to be traveling with a Buick freak friend of mine <chas is staying home> and we'll be staying in Harrisburgh with Chas's brother. We're leaving Pittsburgh around 2am because he works nights, we expect to get to hershey around 6am. We're taking his '94 Roadmaster wagon he picked up at the Goodwill Auto Auction for $900 with 40k miles on it.

yeah, it should be the 330TL, that'd go over well with Acura ;-)

That's nice, but I really wish you could get a CTS with a mid-range V8 as well.

just send it off to some museum somewhere

Oh good, now I have something to replace the Avalanche with

Stratoliner?

Oh yeah, cause aiming for profitability is some mumbo jumbo preached by Miss Cleo

They have to get back to profitability first, then concern themselves with market share. It's not like they're in a free fall, they have kept fairly steady. Market share was actually up for August.

GM could get to 50% market share by giving away all the cars for free.... yeah... that's the ticket!

They no longer have the infrastructure in place to support 30% at this point. Delphi couldn't keep up and neither could most of their plants. Marketshare isn't a measure of company health.

I, for one, agree with Bob that what is the point of 30% market share if the company is losing money doing it!? I much rather GM at a profitable 22% market share than an unprofitable 30% market share. I'm sure other stock holders feel the same way. GM is producing more great cars than they are duds. There are "gotta have" vehicles here already. The Escalades, the Kappas, the new 'Vette. The current CTS was "gotta have" for me... and I got it. The next CTS looks like it is the same. The Cobalt is selling so well they're having inventory issues <opposite of the kind Chrysler is having with the 300>. The Cobalt is making a profit!

or Mitsubish becomes top shareholder of Isuzu Link

Sounds promising... except for:

all cars come in black, the rest are just factory errors.

Look at this other neato innovation... Linky

take it to IM you two.... oh... wait...

ouch!

Linkity