Drew Dowdell

Gay guys are just as interested in cars as any other guy. I think the difference here is that this site seems "tighter" and we could all probably hang out and get along in real life rather then just on a msg board. I think a few of us broke the ice with our sexualities, and that made more people <BV for example> comfortable with being open about it. As for telling other gay guys about this place. I've told my other car head gay friends about this website, but as far as I know, none of them have logged on.

We don't care about sexuality.... but look at all the Chryslers you've had..... not sure if you'd be welcome here. <j/k> :P :P :P

There are more "yinzers"* driving Grand Am's then you can swing a dead cat at. *yinzer - A derogatory term for a white trash Pittsburgh native based on the fact that they use the term "yinz" instead of the word you.

Again, it's not really hard to design the car when you already have most of the major components designed and all you need to it put a pretty skin on it.

Here are the poll responses: 1. It's not the size that matters 2. that's a good size 3. that's a perfect size 4. :blink: 5. you are not putting that thing in me! 6. woah

Germany happened.

It also shows what frequent minor refreshes can do for a car. Look at us all sitting in here nodding in approval at a car designed in 1997.

Some of us are just more aware of size and where we will and won't fit. :lol: :blink: :rolleyes: :P

Bling sells

That's a fairly nice interior for a W-body

Intrigue.

Plus, much like GM's 3800, Toyota throws the V6 from the Camry in just about EVERYTHING with a V6 engine! Nissan does the same thing with the VQ Ford does it with the Duratec. Sure the displacements might be a little different, but the overall engine is so similar as to be nearly idential.

NAV should be offered simply because it could be a high profit option for GM that acutally has value to the customer.

I'd feel like I was piloting a shuttle pod from Star Trek!!!

Reg, in case you haven't noticed over the past 20 years or so. Engines and transmissions are developed seperately from the cars they are finally put in. The 3.6vvt was "late" for the CTS and Rendevous, but exactly on time for the LaCross, STS, and Aura. Toyota almost ALWAYS releases engine updates mid-cycle. The current generation of Lexus ES started as an ES300.... today its an ES330. The Northstar was first introduced in the final years of the Allante. The CTS-v didn't come out till the CTS's second year. The Hybrid GM900s won't be out till about 6 months or so after the standard ones are. Honda's Accord Hybrid wasn't available till 3 years after the body style came out. BMW's Bangle M5 wasn't available at the Bangle 5-series launch. There is precedent for not releasing the new engine with the new platform.

I suppose it should be fairly easy to develop a car in 12 months when you already have: 1. The engine designed and tested. 2. The transmission designed and tested. 3. Buttons and switches in the parts bin. 4. Major frame components designed and tested. Toyota is designing cars like the housing industry is building houses. They have all the components in built and ready ahead of time. They bulldoze the site, pour the slab, then truck in all the bits, slap them together, and put a pretty skin on the outside.

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O4?

That looks like The Breakers in Palm Beach... I've stayed at that hotel.

I bet that Toyota Cavalier went over like a lead balloon.

I like to sometimes live dangerously. I told a very pregnent woman at work that the most dangerous place in the company is between her and the buffet.

Citibank commercial: Southern redneck trailer queen voice: "Well I went straight for the ritziest shopping channel on T.V. I bought some sturrup pants, some gold hoop earings, and some press on nails with the diamonds built right in..... Well... I know it's wrong... but I feel like the prettiest girl... in the whole... development. <happy cry>" That's what I think of everytime I see a modern Monte.

I work in a company that has no black employees in the offices. We have one girl who is from South Africa. We call her african-american all the time...... but she's cool with the joke.

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You should enter the wagon! That's the hottest and best quality chop of the 3. I'll vote for it.