Member55

But I suspect the real reason we will not get the diesel is emissions and not cost.

I think it's the cost of meeting the emissions regulations.

Not everything is based on money.

Not everything is based on money.

Even a 5K premium would not turn me off from buying a Diesel AWD CTS.

This would rock. I take this over a hybrid any day.

How many years would it take you to save $5K? Except the fuel economy are there any other reasons you want a Diesel?

CR-V is still on fire!

Altima was never intended to 'overtake' the Camry. Let Toyota sell to the average dweebs.

I'm sure Nissan wouldn't complain if they would sell 40k Altimas next month.

they need to get the 3.5 in the fusion/milan too.

I agree 100% and that would probably be the best thing that can happen to the US auto manufacturers. F and GM would be a natural fit to pick up those buyers and would take a lot of pressure off of them as far as NA plant capacity. MB could keep Jeep and relaunch it much like BMW did with MINI.

I see your point but how would somebody go about shutting down Chrysler, or most of it?

Perhaps Nissan-Renault. Ghosn is the only one semi-successful at merging automakers in recent years. But acquiring Chrysler might be his Waterloo.

Nissan-Renault, GM and Ford would be a much better fit for Chrysler than MB ever was. I was always skeptical about DCX, they are so limited when it comes to sharing platforms, engines......

Better to let Chrysler go out of business. Many Dodge Ram buyers would move over to Silverados, and LX buyers would be natural customers for the upcoming Zetas. Jeep and maybe minivans are the only appealing thing for GM. The few fans of Chrysler's small cars can buy Mitsubishis or Hyundai/Kias.

Chrysler is not going out of business, somebody will buy them.

Long term they could save a lot of money, name me one platform type, engine, transmission.....which Chrysler could need that is not already in GMs part bin. All these "parts" are paid for or will be paid for regardless of how big GM is. There is so much duplication that could be taken out. The only question is, is GM healthy enough to handle Chrysler today.

There is nothing I do not like about that car. It is the perfect next purchase. The G6 lease is up in T-minus 21 months and counting (praying for 6 month lease pull-ahead from GM).

Wow, great,...

http://secfilings.nasdaq.com/filingFramese...2F2007&pdf=

http://secfilings.nasdaq.com/filingFramese...2F2007&pdf=

Read between the lines.

True that, but they upgraded F also. Maybe they upgraded F just to not make their GM connection to obvious.

The one in the Torrent and Equinox is an Aisin produced 5-speed.

215067[/snapback]

Yeah, I know, That's why I said made by GM in my origional post.

Youre not recalling correctly.

215051[/snapback]

They have more than one 5 speed?

I really do hope they mean it will get the new 6 speed automatic, not the 5.

214782[/snapback]

IIRC the only 5 speed made by GM is used in the Sigma vehicles and Solstice. That transmission is RWD/AWD so it can't be used in the Equinox. MY guess it will be the new 6 speed.

Oh come on - You seem to miss the original point of this discussion.

You were wrong on capacity constraints for the Fusion products.

Global sales - are less than what you stated.

If you want to continue to play your games - get your facts straight.  I have been in this business way to long.

212002[/snapback]

Why is it so hard to post the numbers? You called my numbers wrong but will not post the "correct" info. BTW, I did say that I estimated the Mexican and SA sales, no need to insult.

No - It seems you do not know how to add.

I checked the data and you are off base.

You also seem to miss why Ford is running the extra shift and why the incentives are low.

211997[/snapback]

Post your numbers.

Check the data yourself.  Over simplified.

211992[/snapback]

It's not that hard to add up monthly sales numbers. What's so over simplified about it?

Since my earlier post was lost and getting back to my original point, you are still wrong.

Your sales numbers are wrong or a more correct statement is incomplete and your overall assessment of the situation is wrong.

Ford is not contrained by production.

211976[/snapback]

I was wrong about the plant being maxed out but how are my sales numbers wrong? Do you have better numbers?

Well your sales numbers are a tad inflated but there is always a third shift when Ford wants to get back into the fleet business.

211845[/snapback]

I don't think they are inflated, during the first 10 months the US sales are 177881, Canada ~15K, I estimated Mexico and SA at 10-15K. Too many countries down there, don't feel like doing the research. According to this random article the plant is already running 24 hours a day. http://www.autonet.ca/News/story.cfm?story...2059993-ap.html

Estimates I have are 250k. 

211807[/snapback]

If we consider Mexico, Canada and South America sales the Fusion trio is selling at ~21K units a month. Unless the plant can do more than 250K it's maxed out.

They are not at capacity or close to it.

They are holding production to address the "real world" demand and maintain close to optimal pricing.

211586[/snapback]

What's the plant max capacity?

Their Fusion strategy is interesting, while selling 10K units is nothing impressive we have to keep in mind that those are about 95% retail sales. At this point they couldn't sell 20K units a month even if there were that many customers, the plant is already maxed out. It's no wonder that the rebate is only $500 at this time IIRC. I wonder if they will stick with one plant for a few years, until the Fusion is established player and sales can go up without of having to practically give them away.

They got 0-60 in 6.9? Maybe they suck at shifting.

I've seen the non-Sport CTS with the 3.6 get as low as 6.6 (maybe even lower?). Hell, some publications had the 03 CTS with the old 3.2 getting 0-60 in 6.9 while most were around 7.0 or 7.1.

Also, I just thought of something: The C&D SRX was AWD vs. RWD for the Edmunds SRX. Maybe that had something to do with it.

209409[/snapback]

AWD will make it slower.