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    Mazda Updates the 6 With A Turbo Engine Option

      Finally! The Mazda6 gets a more powerful engine


    We're big fans of the Mazda6 here at Cheers & Gears. It offers a breath of fresh air in the midsize sedan class with sharp looks and excellent driving dynamics. One complaint we do have with the 6 is the lack of a more powerful engine. The 2.5L SkyActiv four-cylinder is an okay engine, but we found at times that we wanted a bit more oomph. Mazda seems to agree as they will be dropping the turbocharged 2.5 SkyActive four from the CX-9.

    This is part of "a thoroughly re-engineered and refined" 6 that will be debuting later this month at the LA Auto Show. Mazda isn't saying how much power the turbo engine will be on tap for the 6. The engine in the CX-9 produces 227 horsepower (250 hp when running on premium fuel) and 310 pound-feet of torque. We learned last year that the turbo 2.5L could fit into a number of Mazdas, including the 6.

    Other changes for the "thoroughly re-engineered and refined" 6 include a new front end similar to the CX-5 (new grille and headlight design), higher-quality materials for the interior, and new active safety features.

    Source: Mazda
    Press Release is on Page 2


    RE-ENGINEERED, REFINED MAZDA6 TO DEBUT AT LOS ANGELES AUTO SHOW

    November 15, 2017, HIROSHIMA, Japan — Mazda Motor Corporation announced today it will unveil a thoroughly re-engineered and refined Mazda6 sedan (known as Mazda Atenza in Japan) at the Los Angeles Auto Show. The company will hold a press conference at 10:30 a.m. (local time) on Nov. 29, the first of two press days. The show is open to the public from Dec. 1-10.

    The Mazda6 is the flagship of Mazda’s passenger car lineup. The development team’s goal for this round of updates, the third since the model was fully redesigned in 2012, was to enhance the daily lives of people who love cars, incorporating premium details and new engineering concepts and technologies based on Mazda’s human-centered design philosophy.

    The powertrain lineup adopts new technologies, including a cylinder deactivation system for the SKYACTIV-G 2.5-liter gasoline engine, to offer superior fuel efficiency and a performance feel crafted to match human sensibilities. In addition, the SKYACTIV-G 2.5T direct-injection turbocharged gasoline engine that debuted in the Mazda CX-9 crossover SUV has been added to the engine lineup in North America and some other markets. Producing torque on par with 4-liter V8, this engine offers an effortless performance feel that is equal parts composure and excitement.

    The concept behind the styling improvements is “Mature Elegance,” and the design team worked to raise the quality feel of both the interior and exterior, resulting in a look of greater maturity and composure. A new high-grade interior features Japanese Sen Wood, often used in traditional Japanese instruments and furniture, and other exclusive trim elements for an enhanced premium feel that is authentic to the brand. Overall the design is more distinctive, premium, beautiful and dignified, as befits the flagship of Mazda’s passenger car lineup.

    The updated Mazda6 offers a wider range of advanced i-ACTIVSENSE safety technologies which help the driver identify potential risks and reduce the likelihood of damage or injury. Mazda Radar Cruise Control (MRCC) can now bring the car to a standing stop and take off again when the car in front moves away, and the model also adopts Mazda’s latest 360° View Monitor. In combination with previously introduced safety features, these technologies allow drivers to enjoy superior safety and worry-free driving under an even wider variety of conditions.

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    1 hour ago, A Horse With No Name said:

     

    In all seriousness the Legacy already has a 6...

    I know but I would hope if they popped in a 2.5 turbo they would also have a sport suspension.  I drove the current gen 3.6 a year or so ago and it was definitely a cruiser, not something that liked corners like a Mazda or apparently the new Honda with the available adaptive suspension.

     

     

     

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    5 hours ago, A Horse With No Name said:

    Hmnmmmm....this could push me into the Mazda camp when I buy my next car.

    Now we just need a Mazdaspeed Miata!

    indeed.... then let me drive it. ;)

    2 hours ago, frogger said:

    I know but I would hope if they popped in a 2.5 turbo they would also have a sport suspension.  I drove the current gen 3.6 a year or so ago and it was definitely a cruiser, not something that liked corners like a Mazda or apparently the new Honda with the available adaptive suspension.

     

     

     

    did you test the sport, T or the GT? the '15's 19" tires were a sore spot for lots of people.

    2 hours ago, frogger said:

    They teased the interior too. I guess they stuck with analogue gauges.


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    is there anything wrong with an analog tach and speedo? 

    other than looking like it should be calibrated sometimes, i don't think so. I've not driven a digital dash car yet, but i like the simplicity of analog.

    i guess being able to customize a digital dash to take away some issues with the HUD, if it's there or not, would be good....

     

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    I think the Subaru trim levels must he different in Canada, as I drove a limited at a marketing event.  They just have Limited and Touring on the 6 cylinder here.  Not sure what tire size it had, but at least 18 inch and it was spring of 2016.

    I  like analog gauges, seems among mainstream models only Honda and maybe VW are putting bigger digital gauge options in their cars.  I would like Android Auto though.

     

     

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    6 minutes ago, riviera74 said:

    Why can't Mazda simply make the turbo 4 the only engine option, especially since there is no v6 in that car anymore?

    I concur on the Mazdaspeed Miata with a turbo 4.

    They could if they offered a substantially downsized turbo as a base model. They need to keep CAFE up.

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    17 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    They could if they offered a substantially downsized turbo as a base model. They need to keep CAFE up.

    the 2.0L is the base around the world... if it makes nearly the same ~150HP, a turbo 1.5L should have 150hp based on the 250 the 2.5L  T has.

    but, Mazda prefers to stay away from turbos because of it's driving characteristics.

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    On 11/17/2017 at 5:43 PM, loki said:

    the 2.0L is the base around the world... if it makes nearly the same ~150HP, a turbo 1.5L should have 150hp based on the 250 the 2.5L  T has.

    but, Mazda prefers to stay away from turbos because of it's driving characteristics.

    I'm not understanding what you're aiming for? What is the base engine you'd like to see in the Mazda 6?  What's wrong with the current engine now as a base?

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    14 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    I'm not understanding what you're aiming for? What is the base engine you'd like to see in the Mazda 6?  What's wrong with the current engine now as a base?

    i don't have complaints about it, your comment was about a downsized turbo engine to keep CAFE up. i was giving an example of one, but i don't know how that would affect their CAFE rating.

    we shall see what the upgrades to the 2.5L engine do for power and economy. i think the rumor is up about 10HP, making it 194. The big question is if they've done much else to the powertrain...aka upgraded to an 8speed.

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    7 hours ago, loki said:

    i don't have complaints about it, your comment was about a downsized turbo engine to keep CAFE up. i was giving an example of one, but i don't know how that would affect their CAFE rating.

    we shall see what the upgrades to the 2.5L engine do for power and economy. i think the rumor is up about 10HP, making it 194. The big question is if they've done much else to the powertrain...aka upgraded to an 8speed.

    Oh, I was only replying to your "all turbo".

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    6 minutes ago, loki said:

    video for the NA engine

     

     

    No doubt a very cool video showing their version of this, but I still have to say So What! Mazda is not really innovating and growing as much as just refining their current product

    I still do not think they will remain independent in 5-10 years.

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    1 hour ago, dfelt said:

    No doubt a very cool video showing their version of this, but I still have to say So What! Mazda is not really innovating and growing as much as just refining their current product

    I still do not think they will remain independent in 5-10 years.

    i'd say it all hinges (staying independent) on the skyactiv-x attempt being put in the other 2 engines(assuming the 1.5 would even be relevant) and if it's put in the turbo'd engine...  along with how fast other hybrid/electric vehicles take over the market. 

    their collaboration with 'yota for hybrid tech in mazdas will also be a big variable, hopefully to show up in '20 models.

    also, in terms of the video, i wonder how much the uls gasoline standard is a part of the soot reduction.

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    1 hour ago, loki said:

    i'd say it all hinges (staying independent) on the skyactiv-x attempt being put in the other 2 engines(assuming the 1.5 would even be relevant) and if it's put in the turbo'd engine...  along with how fast other hybrid/electric vehicles take over the market. 

    their collaboration with 'yota for hybrid tech in mazdas will also be a big variable, hopefully to show up in '20 models.

    also, in terms of the video, i wonder how much the uls gasoline standard is a part of the soot reduction.

    Good point of consideration. If MB, BMW, GM, Ford and Toyota deliver on their EV / Hybrid auto's, by 2020 Mazda could be in a world of hurt with nothing to compete against it and their so called Skyactive technology will not amount to much. I really hope they have an EV backup plan.

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    On 11/23/2017 at 2:03 PM, dfelt said:

    No doubt a very cool video showing their version of this, but I still have to say So What! Mazda is not really innovating and growing as much as just refining their current product

    I still do not think they will remain independent in 5-10 years.

    HCCI is a huge advancement

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