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Rumorpile: PSA Group Puts Opel/Vauxhall Flagship SUV On Hold

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It appears one of Opel/Vauxhall's planned vehicles has been put on hold

Opel and Vauxhall are currently in the process of working on a new business plan for their new owner, PSA Group. Already, it seems one project has been suspended.

Auto Express has learned from sources that plans for a flagship SUV have been shelved for the time being. Possibly named Monza, the model would use the Insignia platform and be around the size of a Ford Edge. It seems PSA Group is putting a freeze on various projects that are related in some form to Opel/Vauxhall's former owner, General Motors. Whether or not the Monza is canned or moved to a platform from PSA Group remains to be seen. One thing is clear, changes are already happening.

Source: Auto Express

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daves87rs

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August 12, 20178 yr

Can't blame them for wanting to use their own resources........

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G. David Felt

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August 12, 20178 yr

5 minutes ago, daves87rs said:

Can't blame them for wanting to use their own resources........

Totally agree, I would not be surprised to hear most of the current projects that are not 50% or more along in the process to market are delayed as they rework the launches to use PSA platform as they retire GM platforms.

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daves87rs

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August 12, 20178 yr

1 minute ago, dfelt said:

Totally agree, I would not be surprised to hear most of the current projects that are not 50% or more along in the process to market are delayed as they rework the launches to use PSA platform as they retire GM platforms.

Yeah, and knowing they are going more toward EV in the future-in house makes much more sense. And gives them some wiggle room too to change their mind .....

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Drew Dowdell

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August 16, 20178 yr

Makes me wonder what was still in the Opel pipeline far enough along that it will still be GM related.

Also: Insignia platform + Edge sized = GMC Acadia. The C platform (Acadia) is the crossover variant of the E platform (Insignia).

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Drew Dowdell replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

Yep. And I think they got the energy density a little higher than Tesla's. Not a huge jump, but enough to matter and bring the vehicles over the 300 mile range mark will still keeping battery size in check.
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ccap41 replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

I believe Ford's new platform and mid-size/compact truck are supposed to be LFP chemistry. It's good to know their degradation curve are even better for the consumer.
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Drew Dowdell replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

The concern is also largely going to disappear in the emerging generation of batteries. LFP chemistry (available in some Teslas and supposed to be coming in Hyundai/Kia/Genesis soon) have degredation curves that far exceed a vehicle lifetime. We're talking over a million miles before the batteries reach 80% of design capacity. The downside of LFP is they don't have the energy density that standard EV batteries (NMC) have, meaning you either have to be comfortable with less range or an even bigger battery pack. GM has LMR batteries on the way also. These are a medium point between standard EV batteries an LFP. They have 30% plus more energy density than LFPs. There hasn't been extensive degredation testing of this chemistry yet, but it is expected to be well above NMC and closer to LFP. Even if its 500k miles plus instead of 1 millon, it is functionally the same as LFP since so few cars reach that mileage anyway. What's interesting is that LMR and LFP could make the pursuit of super-capacitors obsolete. The only advantage super capacitors would have is rapid charging and possibly weight, but at the speeds we have today with EV charging, it might not be worth the cost for a technology that multiple automakers are struggling to bring to market.
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ccap41 replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

I'm not trying to dispute that, at all. I know this. I should have used different numbers so you wouldn't have jumped to the conclusion that I'm expecting a 50% degradation. That's mostly what I expected, but didn't know the science behind batteries and/or charging. Thank you!
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Drew Dowdell replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

Yeah, it was in the news a lot in the past year because a certain segment was saying it was proof that EVs weren't the way forward. GM spent a billion or so rebuilding that plant.
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G. David Felt replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

Cool had not heard that they had rebuilt the plant. Agree that until the engines are in the wild, it will be interesting to see how they do. My own experience with the 5.7L V8 that was in my 1994 GMC Suburban was awesome, solid engine even after I bored it out into a 402 mean machine. Would love to have that Suburban with an AWD EV powertrain.
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Drew Dowdell replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

They rebuilt the towanda plant almost from the ground up for these engines. I’ll reserve judgement for now.
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