another red car

[razoredge]

any ideas ?

[Newbiewar]

hrmm... this vehicle doesnt appear to be stock...

it seems old, yet it has disc brakes... all the way around, or at least it appears to... but its got those spoke rims...

i want to say its an austin martin...

[balthazar]

I don't think those are discs...

Car is tight: sits purty on a relatively really big wheel/tire- looks great. Nice 'domestic' beltline going right into the backlight, and the backlight transitions smoothly into the deck. Not the norm for this vintage from this country. Front lights appear to be a retrofit, but they fit so well stylistically and keep the front from looking too spartan (which it doesn't at all). Would like to see the hood scoop a tiny bit larger. Portholes are delicious. Would love to see the ass on this one. Has it 'all going on' over a ferrari of the same vintage.

Must be a Cisitalia, gonna say '48.

[pow]

A pure guess... a Maserati of some sort?

[Newbiewar]

any ideas ?

this is the closest i can come...

thats a 1951 ferrari 212 chassis vignale

heres another one that cought my eye

1955 OSCA MT4 1500 Vignale

heres one that looks like could have turned into that over a few years

[Newbiewar]

225 Vignale Coupe

heres another getting warmer

another one...

and last but not least a WINNER

1950 Abarth 205 Abarth Vignale Berlinetta

Edited February 17, 2006 by Newbiewar

[razoredge]

Atta boy ! 1950 Abarth 205A body by Vignale designed by Giovanni Michelotti

The Vignale Ferraris 212 & 225S were darn perty too. But as Balthy pointed out this car has STANCE......I can easiely see Crossfire and even 350Z still carrying these styling traits and proportions.

" Born in Austria in 1908, Karl Abarth was a European motorcycle champion in the 1930s who fled to Italy during World War II. His firm, Abarth & C., was formed from the remnants of the famed Italian constructor Cisitalia in April of 1949, its first cars being adapted from Cisitalia 202 coupes.

The 205 was much more than a reworked Cisitalia, however, with a specific chassis and more developed engine."*

Heres another for the rear shot Balthazar wanted, pretty basic, notice the double bubble, said to increase head room in the tiny cars.......but I still think it was more stylishly inspired.

This sold for just over 105,000 in 04........in GREEN It has history though.

*from : http://www.sportscarmarket.com/profiles/20...uly/Etceterini/ a good read BTW, worth the 5 minutes, its paints a bit of the picure of post WWII Europe and a few of its inhabitants which Im glad lived on to create these little gems to look at.

"Chassis 205-102, pictured here, was imported straight from Italy where it was said to have been first campaigned by the factory, and then a subsequent owner, before being acquired in September 1964 by the well-known Austrian enthusiast and privateer racer, Helmut Fischer. The car was henceforth dubbed the "Fischer Green Star." This example was a formidable street-legal racer, with which Fischer managed to win 14 national championships in his category, and achieve over 130 victories in all. Somewhere in its career, the original Fiat engine was replaced with a 1300-cc Alfa engine and five-speed gearbox, which are still in the car."

something is also telling me somewhere, someone did a front end upgrade, I dont recall this style of headlight fairing comming into the picture before the 60's

there can be no doubt that Harley Earl, Virgil Exner and other American designers and Italian coach builders were taking much in during this period from the Genevia and Paris car shows. Though markets and economies landed them in totally different directions, there are little items here and there that indicate mutual inspiration.

Edited February 17, 2006 by razoredge