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Celebrated a family members birthday with Surf n Turf dinner tonight.

If ya ever get out to Washington look me up, happy to BBQ some food for you.

You missed the bigger point which was your bar moving yet again. You went one way and as soon as you were presented with a factual counter, you moved the bar and upped the number without regard to geography. I would be more mad that the new kid on the luxury block is getting noticed as much as the Germans as of late, but hey, I'm not the one looking for constant one brand validation just because I happen to own the brand in question.

Not sure where your pulling your numbers, but Ford reported their Monthly June Sales that is outperforming the industry as June Sales showed a 31% increase in sales, not 5%. Edit: Adding actual link to the release info: https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2022/07/05/ford-june-sales.html

Good first review of the Cadillac LYRIQ. 2023 Cadillac Lyriq First Drive Review: The New American Luxury Songbook (insideevs.com)

@Davidall those food pics look delicious. Makes me hungry. Alas, I was busy on the 4th and had to settle for a Dairy Queen chili dog on the 4th…

So now it’s “Genesis will never make…” a $200K car instead of your earlier “Genesis doesn’t even make a $100K” car? Which is it? Maybe the lesson here is to just admit that you were wrong about the $100K part and just move on instead of constantly trying to protect Mercedes like they sign your paycheck every week.

Thanks..looking forward to getting back to some sort of normalcy. Here is a pic of Lucy and I about 3 years ago at the Cleveland Symphony. We joke about being twins, though we are 13 years apart..very similar personalities and tastes, both in technology. Our birthdays always fall on the same day of the week, 3 weeks apart.

Only 75-80%? Why so low?

I left them out because they didn't report the numbers yet.

They don't make a $100,000 car in the USA, the Asian market cars are more expensive when you do direct conversion of their currency to US dollar. The Mercedes S500 base price is 188.6 million won in South Korea ($144,500 direct conversion), that's still more than the fully maxed out G90 at 182 million won. A loaded G90 is $81,775 in the US, not exactly range topper luxury. I believe it was a quarterly number, I got it from a list of all car companies Q2 results. Ford is down 8% for the year, so probably the early part of Q2 was bad and June was good.

Conversion rates aren’t the same, in China direct conversion an S-class is like $200k. And $140k US is not even a loaded S580, let alone a Maybach or AMG. You can find used S-classes for over $200k, same goes fir G-wagon and several other AMG models. Genesis will never make a $200,000 car and never have a collector car or museum car. The Mercedes 300SLR coupe sold for $143 million at auction this year. So there is the standard. When Genesis sells a car for $143 million they can be in Mercedes league.