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This car is going to feel cavernous inside. The EQS doesn't feel that much bigger than a standard issue E-Class, though it does have more trunk space. Part of that is due to the bathtub feeling with the doors that go up to nearly shoulder height. I will likely be getting some EQS AMG drive time tomorrow.

It is also just a two door vs a four door and skip the fact that while those materials are typical Rolls expensive and high quality, it is also a visual mess in there and front pieces of the dash actually look hodge podge like in their design. No flow at all. I mean, on first glance, it doesn't even look like a $400K car much less a Rolls IMO. The Caddy may have a questionable look to the rear 3 quarters but that will vary person to person and owners will spend more time inside these cars looking at the interior, which again, does Rolls no favors at first glance.

So true, that he cannot even admit his 400V EQ world is garbage compared to VW, GM, Ford, Kia and Hyundai who are the current leaders in EVs. One cannot say that I did not try to point out the facts. Going to be interesting to see how Sony Honda Mobile does and how it will sell being on the Honda lots next to their Ultium EVs. We are in interesting times, and I think some of the current conservative auto companies are going to come up short and others are going to morph over time. press-release_2022-10-13_en (sony-honda-mobility.com) Sony has an $81.78 Billion market capitalization; Honda has a $39.88 billion market capitalization. Will be interesting to see if the Sony Honda EV things go well, do the parent companies merge or just what happens with this new side business for them both. Sony has also stated they see room for luxury in building a better EV than the current luxury auto companies. So, do they push into the current luxury or ultra-luxury market? I think Cadillac not only has a hit on their hands and that their EV product line will set a new bar for everyone to catch up too, but we are going to see a major market change over the next decade.

So your car and its four zone climate control is nothing like what’s in the Caddy. Save the trolling remark next time and just admit you were trolling to begin with. Also helps to admit you don’t know what you’re talking about here but I don’t expect a Benz fan to admit to anything that may be a positive for a GM product.

@smk4565--Show us on your 15 year old Mercedes where it has the following in regards to your "4 zone climate control" (since you somehow think it is that simple). Advanced Climate System: CELESTIQ is the first vehicle to feature a Gentherm ClimateSense® four-zone microclimate system as standard equipment. It features 33 unique microclimate devices that allow each occupant to tailor their seat heating and cooling, along with advanced airflow technology that creates truly individualized comfort. All four-seating positions will feature the same level of individualized comfort, including a neck scarf, heated armrests as well as heated, cooled and ventilated seats. The system can also significantly reduce HVAC energy consumption.

It's a pretty awesome to benchmark. I'd probably do the same.

You're probably not seeing them under their news because they're already been out and tested by the magazines. https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a38697462/2022-mercedes-amg-eqs-drive/ They're probably just reaching dealerships but they're available. https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=652389155&allListingType=all-cars&makeCodeList=MB&modelCodeList=MBEQSAMG&city=Highland&state=IL&zip=62249&location=&searchRadius=500&isNewSearch=false&marketExtension=include&showAccelerateBanner=false&sortBy=relevance&numRecords=25&requestId=2281868035&dma=&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fall-cars%2Fmercedes-benz%2Feqs-amg%2Fhighland-il-62249%3Fdma%3D%26searchRadius%3D500%26isNewSearch%3Dfalse%26marketExtension%3Dinclude%26showAccelerateBanner%3Dfalse%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26numRecords%3D25%26requestId%3D2281868035&clickType=listing

Not according to the MB News section, this is the first I have heard that the EQS AMG is actually out. I know Mercedes showed off a concept AMG at one time. but nothing else on their news site since. Interesting is that the EQE AMG has been announced and shown. Mercedes-Benz USA | Online Newsroom (mbusa.com) Doing a Search for AMG EQS shows nothing, so at this time, I have to wonder if @smk4565 is confused with the AMG EQE SUV that is coming out. @Drew Dowdell Looking forward to what you learn about the AMG EQ????????? tomorrow. Did find on their Global Page talks about pre-orders of AMG EQS sedan. but it does not look to be out or in the U.S. yet. Mercedes-Benz Cars - Mercedes-Benz Group Media This is all from 2021 and then silence.

According to the itinerary of the event tomorrow, the EQB 350, EQE 500, and EQS AMG will all be there. Could be pre-production possibly.

That Rolls I linked seems like a direct competitor and it doesn't have a disgusting rear 1/4 of a vehicle.

Which is the ONLY reason why he thinks 800V is a waste. Not because of lack of 800V chargers but because his favorite doesn't even have it. "The best or...not the best by Mercedes Benz". That is why there will no further engagement with him by me.

He literally ignores everything like the 3D printing options because it doesn’t do anything for him, like that matters at all. Stop indulging the Mercedes fan who will never admit that Cadillac might just be upping their game to the point that it could possibly (already has in the EV world) leapfrog his precious German handlers. Just a complete waste of space at this point. Everyone who is not a complete Benz fanboy recognizes what’s going on here. For F sake, he even talks about the need for physical buttons and preferring the S Class for that reason yet…find the buttons in this S-Class interior. It’s the same $h! in a different form factor from the hyper screen equipped models from Benz and not a button to be found. Again, his validation here is not needed when he can’t even keep his “needs” straight.

This is the nitpicking that others have talked about. You are ignoring the new electric platform that runs at 800V. Your ignoring the Mega Casting and Flex fabrication and 3D printing on top of how they bring plenty of existing small bits and new tech together to make an incredible auto. Nit picking on 9 items on an overall New from Scratch EV design in 24 months is way faster than any other auto company is doing right now including Tesla that seems to take 3 to 5 years from concept announcement and reservations before it actually shows up on the road.

Adaptive Air Suspension: Active Rear Steering: Magnetic Ride Control 4.0: Advanced AWD: Active Roll Control: Active Rear Spoiler: Ride-focused tires: Electric Power Steering: 5-link front and rear suspension: All of this stuff already exists on other cars and most of it has been around a while. They basically took Rolls-Royce's starry night headliner idea and put the lights into the glass which is a neat party piece, but the ability to block out sun or let light in Maybach did in 2004, Mercedes still has it today. Mercedes rear wheel steer is 10 degrees, not 3.5. And you can't open the roof, why is it fixed glass and not a sunroof? 600 hp is nothing new, pretty standard for this segment, which again, I think is fine, people buying these massive sedans aren't drag racing them or taking them to a track, so as long as they have smooth acceleration that is all that matters. The range is fine too, they won't lose a single buyer because the range is 300 not 350. Their whole presentation was based on the "hand built" "custom design" "world class craftsmanship" "luxurious textures and finishes" "Standard of the World" and they filled up the buzzword bingo card but Cadillac hasn't been about any of those things in 60-70 years. Cadillac themselves referenced what they were 100 years ago is what they are shooting for. Why should we believe if you haven't done it in 70 years, all of a sudden you got it right? But if Cadillac can find 400 people a year that want to spend $350k on this car, more power to them.

Love it but "Pretty much everything on this car exists already and there are other EV’s with more power and more range." -SMK Sorry. Couldn't resist one little jab at the obvious lol.

EQB is on dealer lots already, the other 2 aren't yet, so maybe pre-production or just early production. EQE 500 I find interesting, because the EQS is a big blob, the EQE being smaller should be a lot better drive and it has the same interior basically for less money. I do wonder not just for AMG but all car companies, how you start to differentiate from the base car, because it isn't like you are replacing a 4 cylinder with a V8 anymore, a lot of the performance EV's are the same car with different software. Unless we get to a point where an AMG, M, Shelby, SRT or whatever is like a $10,000 add on and not a $30,000 add on like in the ICE days. I am not sold on Sony, Apple, Google or any other tech or electronics company building cars. Just because the car is an EV, doesn't mean you make the same way as an iPhone or a TV. You still need the manufacturing, metal stamping, paint booth, crash testing and all the stuff ICE cars have now, and Sony and Apple don't know the first thing about building a car.

First of all, that's Cadillac's fault for noting those in their releases. He's only talking about what Cadillac, themselves, issued for a press release. Second, Kia and Hyundai are absolutely pumping out vehicles in "24 months". GM isn't doing that either, the guy I know who works for GM says he saw this when he was first hired 2 or 3 years ago.

Others have 800 volt platforms too, and these cars can claim as fast a charging time as they want, but you also need a charger capable of it and the charge network isn't great outside of Tesla's. Which is an EV in general issue, plus if you charge at home it is like 11 kilowatt hours on most EV's. 3D printing doesn't do anything for me. The Celestiq is a lot of screens, and I get that every car is doing that, but I am not a big fan of that either, have tactile buttons, knobs, switches and materials I find more luxurious than screens. Which again, I prefer the S-class interior to the EQS with hyper screen. The Celestiq interior could be in the next Escalade and fitting for that segment, I don't see it as a Rolls-Royce or Bentley level interior.

Right, and my car is 15 years old and has 4 zone climate control. The Celestiq offers what is par for the course among the A8/S-class/7-series crowd, sort of par for the course on EV power and range. So if you like what the big car segment has to offer but are a Cadillac fan, here's your car. I don't think they are contesting Bentley and Rolls owners with this thing though.

My car does not have heated and cooled rear seats only front, and no neck scarf.