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You mean this hot mess that is still in the experimental (i.e. buggy garbage) phase that almost got Elon killed? That AI based FSD nonsense? https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/28/23848882/elon-musk-tesla-fsd-v12-demo-red-light-zuckerberg-house You would have to be out of your ever loving mind to trust AI based FSD in ANY form! They haven't even worked out the kinks in their current self driving systems but you are sitting there trying to convince everyone here that this is the way to go and that only Tesla can pull this off (version 12 AI FSD)?

This theme reminds me of some sort of covert detective and/or vigilante. A cross between a James Bond character and Inspector Clouseau without the clumsiness. But no military or government technology or help. Maybe like Batman but grounded in reality.

Good morning: A poor Republican is like a cow that is pro-leather.

Plus, the litigation surrounding fault with Level 3 has not been sorted out yet.

Very cool history about EVs https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jake-fox-materials_ev-activity-7119112143920058368-p3CJ?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android

What I was really going to post - - - - - current watch: Timex Expedition - black face, blue illumination capability, leather watchband - bought in 2011 for about $40 - Timex: "takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin' " past tense watch: Seiko I used to have - (similar, but not "Presage" and regular gold ... not rose gold) left on a hotel nightstand while hastily packing for an early morning flight from Italy back to the U.S. - the hotel wasn't of the genre that would admit to finding it and send it back to you - consider what happened to Gandolfini's (RIP) Rolex when he was in the hospital ... I do plan to get another similar Seiko sooner than later. I still look at my wrist for the time more so than at my phone.

You beat me to it. LOL. I usually notice these on the homepage. I was not on "terra firma" during this event. The Arch is very cool. First, no two views of it to the visitor are likely to be the same. Second, it gives a lot of credence to the notion that "less is more." Happy belated to @ccap41

Yes...even this one is torture DESPITE being a quite capable and interesting ENTHUSIAST car... Nothing to do with it being a hatch. Nor a 3 cylinder. But EVERYTHING to do with it being a Toyota...

I watched about a half hour of Elon being driven by the car, he had to intervene 1 time during the part I watched, and it was all neighborhoods and regular traffic, none of it was on a divided highway. Yes it is experimental still, but it seems pretty close. I think Tesla gets to level 4 before Mercedes does and Tesla is going to be offering this on mainstream cars, compared to Mercedes who is doing this higher up in the luxury market.

The current FSD version 11 is level 2 and that runs on lines of code like these other systems. FSD version 12 that Elon did his livestream in the car, runs off AI and the supercomputer interpreting what the cameras see. Thus you can drop a car anywhere on an unmapped road and set a destination and the car can still drive to it. And it is hands free, vision free, driver doesn’t have to do anything. That is where Tesla leapfrogs Mercedes because FSD v12 looks like a Level 4 system and that could be out before Mercedes gets level 3 under 40 mph nationwide.