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Um...I know why it's there...but DO SOMETHING WITH IT instead od just being blank. Looks cheap!

after further inspection, I have 3 gripes: The temperature knob The air flow knob The dead button The first two should have been the same button (slightly different sizes maybe?) as the fan speed button...same design at least. The dead button just shouldn't be there.

looks good!

yuppers

This thing is so gross.

I too like this better than the Aveo. Classier, even though they are just a few random changes...they do add up.

See, normally I'd agree, but in the AURA pic, I don't see a finger going IN the gap. My M-Class has such horrible fit that my rear bumper looks like it is falling off. I can stick my middle finger all the way to the knuckle in the gap between the bumper and the side fender. THAT is sticking a finger in. Finger tips? nah.

I like the G3 better. I don't care for the interior in this one as much...and while color-keyed knobs are a good detail...they look ugly in this application IMO.

No...?

Are the plastic inserts on the front seatbacks difficult for knees? How is the steering column attached? What about the "finger in the door" test? I have questions, I need answers!

So how solidly attached is/was the steering column? Did you check? I don't see the pictures...and what about the "finger in the closed door" test? Sorry, but I need more vital information.

You are very uninformed.FIRST of all: This product has been given rave reviews so far, especially commenting on good quality in every major media outlet. This is certainly a more quality product than the Malibu or G6. SECONDLY: This car will be on the market for 3 model years before it is replaced with the Vectra/AURA. THIRDLY: You cannot see the quality improvements? Have you seen the Lambdas? The GMT900s? The new Cadillac SRX interior? I don't see all this rampant cost-cutting...in fact I can tell you that Lutz has INCREASED interior budgets. It has much been reported that when a car went over budget the interior was what was scaled back...and that they are no longer doing that. So before you sit there and criticize Lutz, make sure you have the facts right.

Actually, because they have an immense over-capacity.

I will be at LAIAS this upcoming season and believe me...I will nitpick the $h! out of these cars...last season I hated everything except some AUDIs, Acuras and a Benz or two...everything else was so cheap. VW interiors have gone waaaaay down.

i still think the 2nd row sits too close to the floor...

Why delete the thread? Here's the picture in all its...glory? http://www.autosteel.org/AM/Template.cfm?S...CONTENTID=15669

Oh please...it isn't all that rare. I've noticed a few of those instances occurring recently.

First of all...am I correct in interpreting your last few posts as indication that this is your design? If so...did you seriously create a thread to promote your own work and include the self-aggrandizing "I'd hit it!" emoticon? Seriously? Secondly...yes, grilles change over time. That said, a successful designer can still create vehicles with new, modern design elements that might be foreign to the existing brand...yet incorporate them in such a way that the overall vehicle still looks like it belongs to that brand. For example: The 1980 Cadillac Seville. From the horizontal taillights to the bustleback rear, very little of its shape/styling seem to evoke Cadillac. The devil is in the details: the side molding placement, the proportions, the wheel arches, the grille, the headlight shape/placement...etc. All of those elements make that vehicle, so different from all other Cadillacs, instantly recognizable as a Cadillac. The 2003 CTS is another example: despite using the new Art & Science design vocabulary, the car was still instantly recognizable as a Cadillac. It all goes back to this: If the Ford designers had designed the current Chevrolet Impala, would it be a Ford? No...because it looks nothing like a Ford, lacks Ford proportions, or any other cues to identify it being a Ford. Even the ovoid Taurus still had a Ford "presence" about it despite the radical styling.

Hmmm...o wait where have I seen this before? Ah yes...Demolition Man! Seriously...this is so derivative of the early 90s Cadillac consepts it isn't funny. The design language is stuck in the "aero" age and not only is it not attractive, the fender skirt (I just typed "fender skirt" in the post-B-body era!!) looks like the Honda Insight. Yuck for design, double yuck for complete lack of originality.

Look better than what we have...but certainly won't win any design awards.

I don't think it looks cheap at all. That closeup is prolly with some kind of flash (doesn't look like an OEM photo)...so if that's how it looks at its worst I'll take it!

If Ford's grille looks like a Gilette, this thing looks like a Norelco.

Check your PM box...there's a clarification there.

Ah I see what you're saying

You're a piece of work. Unpleasantly arrogant, you take yourself far too seriously. You make anti-American comments every chance you get. In fact, you're so negative I can't remember the last time you weren't whining about something; whether it's America, North American motor vehicles, parts of Canada becoming "too ethnic," or whatever the hell else you feel like bitching about on any given day. You add very little to the site, and I can safely say the only reason you've been around this long is because you friends with !!!TED!!! and he is a very well-liked and respected member of our site as well as being a very positive person. He's a nice guy, you're not. Oh, and I loved how the pictures you posted were all of yourself with maybe part of your girlfriend included here or there...narcissistic much?