Croc

Yes...but SRX is RWD and drives like a CTS :AH-HA_wink:

Trans fats came to be used so frequently back in the 1960s and 1970s when it was thought that butter and lard was incredibly unhealthy. Hydrogenated VEGETABLE oil sounded healthier...but in reality is worse. It isn't that these kinds of foods will become healthy, but that they will become much less unhealthy. As far as cooks throwing out recipes...only recipes that date back to the 1960s/70s will be affected. This isn't eliminating every restaurant of granny's special meatloaf or anything... Honestly the biggest benefit to hydrogenated oils is that the processed foods have a longer shelf life. That's it. Donuts were made before hydrogenated oils, and all that delicious Southern cooking was too...so those recipes will get switched back to bacon fat or lard like they were before...big deal. They'll all taste the same or better. I believe these were city ordinances, not Federal laws.

I'm for the ban. Trans Fat is nasty and unnecessary.

WHO HERE REMEMBERS THE DOUBLE BIG MAC?? Anyone remember when Wendy's had a salad bar? Two words: bumblebee girl Ally McBeal? Dancing Baby? Linda Tripp? TLC? Lori Beth and her Vital Information for Your Everyday Life? Calvin Klein? Dennis Rodman? Oh the 90s...

9-7X @ least has a console ignition...and Rainier isn't ugly...nor a completely blatant Bravada rebadge.

LaCrosse will be all-new on EPII for 2009 I believe...so one more model year out of it is prolly what we will get...

My guess goes to "ditched" at this point. I think with gas prices as have been that the business case kinda fell apart (speculation).

Agreed. This decade is just now starting to turn into 80s Part Deux...and while I love the callback...it was more original and interesting the first time.So far I'd say this is the decade of "punk," electronic minimalism and American Idol from a music standpoint. For clothes, this is the "vintage," "worn" and "destroyed" decade with some severe 80s influences...but in a more organic, less angular style. The velour tracksuit is to this decade what the tennis skirt was to the 90s and oversized sweatshirts were to the 80s. Oversized sunglasses : fanny packs : shoulder pads. Let's see if I'm right in 5 years...

Aspen & Durango have the same grile shape...the 900s do not. A&D also share a hood (Chrysler gets more lines, but it's really the same hood but more stripes) and 900s do not.

Yea, def noticed the damn door trim. Now here is my question: is this real wood? I assume it is, because otherwise why would the console wood have a joint by the retractible console cover? It looks good, albeit a tad shiny...but I hope it's real. Looking good, Saturn! Also...not as beaked looking as the GM photos make it look in front.

Bill Clinton was one of the greatest Presidents of this country. He brought people together like very few Presidents have done. --- The 90s were alright...but def not my favorite decade. That honor goes to the 80s. THAT SAID...the tennis skirt is dying to make a comeback. I miss seeing those everywhere

I remember the Samurai Pizza Cats!! And Beetle Borgs too! No clue on VR Troopers...Who here remembers Mr. Wizard? Count Duckula? Maya The Bee? The Noozles? Adventures of the Little Koala? The Littl' Bits? Those are some early 90s Nick shows I remember as a small child...

The Aspen shares so much sheetmetal with the Durango though...the 900s are much more differentiated.

...but I don't smoke daily. Never have, never will.

Actually, the "keeps me calm" isn't a BS excuse. I am not addicted. I can stop whenever I want. I have stopped. I am not currently smoking. I have never smoked more than a few cigarettes a day...and usually not any. I do not get cravings. I truly do it because occasionally it pleases me.

The new grille really suits the car! I love it!

I said we should agree to disagree. How you came to the conclusion you did in this thread is absolutely beyond me.I'm telling you now...if you're trying to provoke a flame war (which you seem to be) you might want to look into getting a better hobby because that one is soon going to prove immensely unsatisfying.

Not really guys...I really don't see why y'all are making such a big deal over it. If you look back at that thread all my "I like it" comments were based on this photo: After seeing the interior and seeing it in person, I no longer liked it...and Ven, that different thread was the one you linked to in the initial one saying "let's continue the discussion over here." That said, to Ven's credit...he did not post in that thread after I had posted my updated impression based on the new photos and my view of it in person at LAIAS. Also, the Aspen was not a vehicle you could get inside when we were at LAIAS, so my initial "decent" impression of the interior was from the promo pic, which shows the black plastic as much lower gloss than it really is. ... NOW CAN WE MOVE ON? Jesus...

The headlights are giving me a definite "cute" New Beetle vibe...no me gusta senor.

Z was bringing up the point of where to draw the line...and you missed that point. OK I said to agree to disagree earlier, and at this point it is clear to me you have your little crusade against smoking. That's fine...but this discussion really isn't going anywhere.Neither of us are going to agree, so let's just end it, mkay?

Exactly.And to take this one step further, an insurance company could use the following logic: Since you are gay, and gay men statistically have more frequent sex and more sexual partners than any other coupling, you are at a greater risk of STDs and therefore the insurance company will charge you a 1000% premium. OR If someone is overweight, and overweight people have a higher incidence of Type II Diabetes than any other demographic, they will charge every overweight person a 1000% premium since diabetes is a very expensive and long-term disease. the list goes on and on...

Because unlike cigarette smoke, which goes UP in the air and dissipates, lead fuel shoots out of exhaust pipes and into the grilles of the people driving behind you, giving them lead contamination, and then settles in the area around them. Old highways have a very high lead content in and around the ground around them...and this would take a toxic cleanup to fix. Not the case with cigarette smoke. It does not leave its deposits everywhere, and it's toxins are only toxic if inhaled.Also, lead exposure is much more fast-acting as well as guarantees symptoms. As I said before, not everyone who smokes automatically gets lung cancer, just as some people who have never smoked or been around second hand smoke have gotten lung cancer. There are many factors that can give someone cancer, and while smoking greatly increases that risk, one thing and one thing only causes lead poisoning...and there is a quantifiable amount of lead that gives an individual lead poisoning.

Exactly. That is a reasonable compromise. If I smoke, it will be outside. Away from others, unless they care to join...that's just common courtesy.

Arrrright I think it's time to agree to disagree since I think your altering of Camino's quote is beyond ridiculous. Those two are not a parallel analogy at all.

YEA CAMINO! Arrrrrright gotta ask: what brand? I'm either a Camel or Parliament man...lights of course.