G. David Felt

Your probably right as I remember my parents Lincoln Station wagon and the last one they owned as a 1977 Olds 98 station wagon and I just remember my dad always saying station wagons were right up there with suburbans for 22 foot long auto's, he just liked being lower compared to me liking being taller. Now to go and find out just how long that 98 really was. Found it, 231.8" as it was the longest of it's day before they down sized with the Oil Embargo. OK, so my dad was off as this is just 20 feet long. Still a long big auto.

Love Inline 6 engines, fell in love with them with the Jeep Eliminator Pickup that I always wanted. In regards to Electric Turbo, when not needed the Turbo's impeller spins at 10,000 rpm for minimal hesitation or lag in engine response from pumping air/fuel mixture into the engine. This way you minimize the lag when the driver presses the accelerator. Yet unlike a supercharger that is always pumping in gas/air mixture, the turbo still has lag, though minimal to most people that cannot tell the difference. The point I am making is SMK talks about HP/Torque, new 48 volt electrical system and comes across as if it is the holy grail of auto powertrains. Yet we have seen all this tech for a while now in various forms that get it done without having every single one of them on a single engine. Granted MB is the first that I know of to have them all on one engine. Does that make it better or best? No not necessarily and why I pointed to the fact that their compliance EV auto not only sells terrible but is now a dead product. If they build the best, then why have they not offered a true competitor to Tesla like GM did? If the Inline 6 was so superior, then why did they dump it for a V6 and why are they now like a chef that really does not know how to cook dumping everything into the pot with what clearly to me and others seems to be overkill on a powertrain with only equaling their current engine output rather than beating it soundly. I can get from a business standpoint the simplification of all V engines or all Inline engines to minimize cost of tooling and building when you just have to drop 2 or 4 cylinders so you have inline 4, 6, 8 engines. I get this, but SMK knocks everyone else when they use a family of engines across product lines and then ignores or as has been stated moves the goalposts in regards to MB doing the exact same thing across their product lines. End result is I hope MB continues their success, but this is not a ground breaking engine or superior to what others are doing and one does have to question this over complication of a powertrain or as I have stated, the cook throwing everything into the pot and hoping something good comes out. So far, it seems on par with everyone else out there that is building a much simpler engine and for MB, many expect more.

Yea, that does seem weirdly small considering that we had 22ft long station wagons then.

The color tabs rounding into the front under the new LED headlights, Not a fan of this Roman or is it greek warrior helmet look. Never cared for it even when they did it big using the bumper. Just looks weird to me. Agree, need to see this in more trims, but unlike your like of Chrome, I like my auto's to be monochromatic. Less Chrome is more. Leave chrome for the center grill and rims in my opinion.

Yes, I would agree with you. In regards to this new Chevy, totally on the fence as the front end I honestly do not like. I hope and have high expectations for the GMC version.

Yet like flip flopping fish you state this is world best with HP and Torque and now you say we do not know anything. So which is it, world best which seems not to be, marketing BS to just confuse the lemmings buying their products or honestly just pushing the agenda of MB makes best of everything?

So in other words, a House built for a Model A auto rather than anything after that. Course you just about hit the same problem with homes built in the late 80's and forward where they seem to think in these tight live on top of each other neighbourhoods with 6 feet between homes that all you need is a sub compact. I hate that it is hard to find a new modern home that can handle an Escalade ESV or any other full size SUV / Truck in the garage. They just do not want to make them a proper 26 feet deep unless it is a tandem garage. This is why I like the homes built in the 50 to 60's when they used to build them 24 feet long plus another 6 feet for what was considered normal of having a work bench and space.

Cool Concept Truck, which we never heard of as they revealed it at the Texas State Fair. How many people go to state fairs except in narrow minded ultra conservative tell the wife to sit in the back seat state of texas. Yea Texas can be it's own country. Ram Rebel TRX Concept is a pretty cool ride! :meatl: So is this Rebel gonna try to raise the south again?

I do not think so, but it does remind me of the car in the original Mad Max Movie. The pursuit interceptor that Max drove with the supercharger. These are some of the concepts they came up with and did not use for Robocop: http://www.robertwebb.com/robocop.htm

What the hell are those blue smurf mobiles?

Laugh of the day, I had to go to the Emissions center to have my Escalade tested, passed with flying colors and on the way home, driving past Harrison Ford & Lincoln, I saw a semi loading up a bunch of Mercedes-Benz. Specifically on the truck already was a GLS, GL, CLS and C300. I stopped and asked the guy who was climbing down what was up with all the MB's? He said Harris did not like to deal with them in their used auto lot and each one of them had dash lights on about the engines. So they were being dumped on the Wholesale market, he said that he still had 4 more to go to load up. With that, a sales rep was walking by and asked if I was interested in trading my Escalade in and I said no, but told him I was surprised by the amount of MB. He said they were all end of lease with issues and that this time of year seems to be popular to dump them for new rides. Harris does not bother due to cost with reselling them, so they dump them into the Wholesale Channel. Seems to be common with what I have read in the news about surplus MB auto's coming off lease and expensive fixes required.

Or reality, due to MB own emission issues, they were forced to make a radical change so early on a 2yr old engine to meet European emission laws. From a business sense, this makes no sense to kill off an engine that is only 2yrs old just because. There is more to this story than just because.

Go for it, the GC right now is one of the best SUVs if not the best for the class. You can get such a great deal. My son loves his and got the rare Rhino color for his GC as it stands out and just looks great. You can see how sharp it looks as I added it to our family album of cars we own or have owned.

OMG, this brings me back to the 80's and the one game I loved and could never play enough of Bubble Bobble. Loved the Game and the tune!

The one I always loved, 1987 Monte Carlo SS Aerocoupe in Maroon. Only 200 Built to meet Nascar rules for competition. Talk about a lovely rare bird, rarer than the Grand National GNX of which 547 were built.

@daves87rs Agree YUM Found this on the Auction site, shocked at the high price it sold for $117,700 but then only 1200 miles, pristine and still on the Original Goodyear VR50 tires it came with from the factory. https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1987-BUICK-GRAND-NATIONAL-GNX-COUPE-194306

Ran into a baby boomer at Fred Meyers, Driving an 86 Maroon Monte Carlo, very clean, love them.

Considering it is Tesla, maybe the best answer would be February 28th 2022 at the earliest.

Seems to be a working business plan that allows more profits to support future auto development.

Superior Electric Superchargers are still better than electric turbos as they never have lag period. In regards to incorporating them all, it would seem MB seems to have not been able to figure out a sellable EV auto and as such to meet the European new emissions they are throwing everything into a pot to hope it actually makes the soup taste better not asking if too much is a bad thing. This also just sounds like slight of hand that MB is using marketing gimmick solutions to reinvent an old pig that is still the same solution just different lipstick. So flip flopping on Inline 6, drop it for V6, now drop it for Inline 6 and no real gains over their past engines. Nothing but a Shell Game of Marketing messages to imply it is better when it is not and they are late to the game from Voltage of the electric system to use of electrical engine components, to trying to say really old is better than old so we are now new with an old engine design and an old electrical system compared to the competition.

Interesting about the True Cost of Oil for Gas as I was just looking into this myself and the IAGS, Institute for the Analysis of Global Security states that right now just for the Persian Gulf Military escorts of Oil around the gulf and out of it, the yearly cost is about $50 Billion. While we might pay anywhere from $3 to $5 dollars a gallon, our real cost if all the costs were passed onto ICE owners would be in the $20 to $30 dollar a gallon range. http://www.iags.org/costofoil.html This alone is an amazing quote from them: Our dependency on oil from countries that are either politically unstable or at odds with the U.S. subjects the American economy to occasional supply disruptions, price hikes, and loss of wealth, which, according to a study commissioned by the U.S. Department of Energy, have cost us more than $7 trillion present value dollars over the last 30 years. That is more than the cumulative cost of all of the wars fought by the U.S. since the Revolutionary War. The transfer of wealth to oil-producing countries - $1.16 trillion over the past thirty years - significantly increased our trade deficit. The Department of Energy estimates that each $1 billion of trade deficit costs America 27,000 jobs. Oil imports account for almost one-third of the total U.S. deficit and, hence, are a major contributor to unemployment.

Musk just figured out how to give a short term end of year bump to the stock price and clearly sold companies on this.

My son traded his 2012 Jeep Compass in for his GC and was so happy to get rid of the terrible 4 banger as he never got the stated gas mileage. He gets much better with the GC V6.