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I have hope for some RWD and a new G8 or Bonneville.

Yeah know the well off folks around here buy way more loaded up Chevrolet's than GMC's. Honestly it is nearly a flip, are Pontiac's especially products like the G8 and Solstice popular with the well to do people in your area?

Yup at least hopefully they give the Volt a chance, there is a 7,500 tax rebate on her tho!

Exactly, someone I told ended up buying one instead of a Camry.

The new G8 still had a great month with very few fleet sales I bet. Also I bet the new updated G6 is helping sales as well. Honestly I know you dislike Pontiac and everything it stands for but they are the "black sheep"-- as someone said, and have come back before... If the economy were doing better the G8 would be on fire, I would bet. I am glad Pontiac had a good month and had such a low sales percent decrease, if there is any brand that could do it, it is Pontiac. Lets just kill 'em right? Because they outsold Buick, Saturn, Cadillac and nearly GMC, the third best selling division! That sounds like a brand I would want to kill even if they had some fleet sales it is SALES volume and that is still important to GM. Good for Pontiac, let 'em prove 'em all wrong!

Amen to that... I saw a new G8 GT well, not one but two! In the past week. I agree with what your saying about Pontiac tho!

Awww I gotcha, well be sure to take her out and light them front tires up sometime for me! :AH-HA_wink:

Ohhh good glad you didn't get rid of her. She is a great car! Can I ask is she in the states or across the pond?

Really where you at? Chevrolet is big around where I am, two large dealers in towns less than 10 miles away! Pontiac's aren't nearly as big or well stocked at the dealer in town, but still very popular with country folks thus more stocked at small dealers in small towns. My small town B/C/P dealer has more G6's and Vibe's than the in town Pontiac dealer. Chevrolet's are popular with everyone even "well off" people in my area, they drive Suburban/Tahoe/Avalanche LT/LTZ's and then commonly have a loaded Benz or Audi to go along with 'em.

I'd rather have an Aveo5 LT or G3 with sport pack and power features... Seriously.

Really... PCS? Where'd that nice GXP go I always enjoy looking at that in your sig...

No politics, but uhh seriously he has alot of people whom watched Nascar and voted for him and love Chevrolet cars and trucks, very silly. (if true...)

Yup I do too. I dislike Nascar and don't watch it anymore. Having said that what would happen to all the Teams who drive Chevrolet or Dodge? Oh give more to Toyota, and loose another key group of customers whom are VERY brand loyal the red-neck Nascar crowd, not a good idea if true. Chevrolet will not go for, therefore GM won't. These NASCAR watchers also are like 75% more likely to buy domestic cars I believe if I heard that stat right. This is a stupid move because of all the advertising and pride involved in the silly sport yet. I can't fathom RCR Racing or Hendricks driving Toyota's...Crossing my fingures for chapter 11... JUST DO IT. ^If this is true that is my view...^ But I still think it is B.S.

Goverment should not have this much power. After the current generation G8, CTS, Corvette, Camaro, Solstice we can kiss goodbye any fun RWD cars. After 2015 the industry will look very different. Make no mistake goverment won't make choices on whats out now but ahead. I seriously don't care anymore, if I can't buy cars I want to drive then I'll become 68. All of this is part of the reason I have not been around as much lately, I so feed up with it. File CHAPTER 11 Fritz mentioned it again as a VIABLE option and the goal would be to come out stronger than ever! JUST DO IT. I predict it will happen like this... Obama won't like GM's plans in 60 days, GM files chapter 11, GM kills the UNION all of it, lets 'em strike and hires the people back with fair wages like Honda or Toyota in America. That is what needs to happen... I hope Fritz can do it.

I hope not.

Dear Lord lets hope not, because you can kiss any fun cars or V8 powered cars good-bye, hybrids for everyone.

That'd be fine with me, seen as you wouldn't kill any fun or RWD cars. Also I know you'd plus and bring back the 4.5L diesel V8 and push diesel motors in general which would be good for GM.

Well then its change for changes sake. Maybe it'll help PR seriously or not...

To the mainstream media and the folks it "looks" good. Like GM is finally changing, I just hope Fritz knows his sh*t and if he is CEO I hope he finds a balance between efficent cars and performance ones.

I read that too, this wouldn't be their worst choice.

Thank you! I agree with nearly everything you said about being concerned about goverment power, and killing V8's and SUV's. You have taken the words right out of my mouth, and GM should tell the goverment to stick it and go it alone like you said, but not later NOW. Maybe my next V8 powered car will come sooner rather than later, it scares me what else they could "do" to GM. Cars like the G8, Solstice, Corvette, CTS, Camaro all could be heading for the chopping block because if goverment can kick Wagoner out what is stopping them from doing this?

The great part is you can react whatever way you want. I am very fearful for GM amoung many other things. Look at the history of how government has been run by both parties and then ask yourself is more of "that" what GM needs or is to go to the school of tough luck and start with a fresh slate? Just asking, and that is why I am very scared, and if you like General Motors and believe in this once great American company you might actually realize where I am coming from. Goverment with CAFE, emissions standards and now this has created lots of "new" and recent problems for GM instead of letting consumers demand from them. Then the tax payers feed them billions of billions of dollars, to solve nothing but get the CEO canned. Chapter 11 is sounding better to me as every second passes. I hope GM doesn't get the money tomorrow and they file chapter 11 and tell all parties involved including white and blue collar works to get real, and accept there problems that currently make them un-profitable. Believe if or not GM has alot going for them on the product end, but on this end they need work and the only way it will happen and its become clear to me is Chapter 11. So GM do it for your own good. I see how well goverment has been run and how well GM has been run and mix the two together you have a perfect storm, what possibly could be the end of another Great American Car maker... This doesn't scare you?

I agree an outsider to GM would be fine but someone who understands the auto biz. No I don't find it ridiculous what I find ridiculous is GM taking the bailouts and giving goverment this kind of power over a company up until a few months ago was owned only by stock-holders not goverment. Doesn't someone saying to you "get out" especially Uncle Sam scare you? Then again I look at the role of goverment different and maybe inside Rick was tried of all this dog and pony show b.s. I just hope good can come from this. Still I have many doubts...

Well this isn't good either... I just hope it works for them and they can re-enter the market.

Chris I certainly hope not. It just is scaring me all of it...