surreal1272

When it comes to photo editing, using AI is perfectly acceptable IMO. I do get what you’re saying about it though. There is a lot of gray area where AI is concerned and as an artist, I definitely have a certain stance regarding AI. However, your use of it for this purpose does not exist in that “gray area”. You are using it like any other tool on Photoshop so have at it. Announcing its use should not even be necessary here. Just my opinion though.

Yep, white as snow lol but the pale gray looks really sharp too. A classic van color as well.

Some more pics.

Well, on top of being a Wagon nut, I have always had a soft spot for vans overall. The first 13 years of my life were spent riding around in my dad's 71' Chevy Sport 10 van (with a 3 on the tree) and so that has always stuck with me. As far as for doing this now, the space and versatility were big needs. I sold the Flex a few years ago (when the market was insane lol) and have been driving a 2014 Kia Sorento since then. I still have it but needed something bigger and more comfy for some future road trips so I started stopping out minivans. This is the Touring L model so it doesn't have all the bells and whistles but I only needed a few of each lol. It is a 2018 with 101K miles and was well taken care of. It spent its first 50K miles as a corporate lease so maintenance was always done. I had some concerns about the 9 speed but those fears were alleviated once I put my foot through the floorboard a few times to test it. Best of all, NO PAYMENTS> I finally got some long overdue money owed to me and pst of that to get this for $13K. Needless to say, I am a happy camper right now. It does ride well and I like that it rides on 17s instead of 18s or 19s. Softer ride on those. My best bud has the same year Limited model with the largest wheels and while his rides well, it is a little firmer on the bumps than this one. Again, pretty happy camper here. I wasn't real keen on them when they first came out but the look has aged well and my tastes have clearly changed as well lol.

My not quite new ride number 2…

Ummm, what? How do you undershoot the measurement of YOUR OWN SUV by almost two feet in length? Exactly how drunk does one have to be to believe that a mid-size overdressed Camry is longer than an overdressed Suburban from 2006? Help it make sense. Agree. I've seen the higher trims of this (online, of course) and while the interior colors in those are better than what's pictured here, the overall look from the outside to the inside is a mix bag, at best.

Your "honest" (while loving the look of the Kia van) opinion lol. Beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder.

No price yet but will probably be near $50K knowing VW. Hard pass.

9 times out of 10, whenever someone has to say the above, it is because it is (in fact) ugly. No amount of "seeing it in person" changes the bad angles on the back of the EV4. There is no design cohesion back there when you look at the rest of the car. It is just a mess and I will stand by that, whether seen here or in person.

No car, especially its rear end, should give off "Aztek" vibes. That is just an eye sore on an otherwise well packaged EV.

After reading a separate article about it, you are correct in your guess. It is the same battery.

I wonder why they gave this model less range (and I'm guessing smaller battery) than the upcoming Solterra, even though it is clearly a larger model?

That face is "ugh" but the rest of it is much improved, in terms of battery range and charging speeds. Not the fastest out there but certainly faster than the current Solterra.

Fair enough but certain folks need to actually listen in regards to things like politics instead of doing whatever the hell they want and then later, claim that they are somehow a victim or that they were "bullied". There is a place for political talk and it is not on a car forum (unless it is directly related to the industry, of course).

Apparently victimhood cards are on sale again so I would not take such things very serious, given the source.