FAPTurbo

i've gotten myself demoted...

6 hours ago, ocnblu said:

Somebody in Volvo media management is gonna get chastised for this photo.  Does anyone else notice the defect?  They forgot to punch out some of the holes in the grille!  LOL how does that even HAPPEN?

that’s the radar location, just more integrated than prior models:

the brand's problem is its  not-so-mini prices

this will be the car that's for every car fan's friend/family member who asks: 'what car should i get?'

HET GUYS KNOW HOW TESLA MADE COOL DOORS WE CAN TOO PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO US

cadillac ats, cadillac cts, cadillac xts 

good cars, not great cars

but a neo-nazi homophobe told C&G this car would take wings and fight europe and make the bad ol' electrics go away

16 hours ago, riviera74 said:

No thank you.  Especially to the whole mobility as a service idea

an increasing number of people don't need a car every day so the option of loaning out their depreciating asset makes sense. 

their strategy is to keep everyone disappointed with the car so they can just cancel its successor, citing already low sales and low predicted interest. 

great plan! when they kill Buick in America next year, nobody will even notice the brand’s disappearance!

4 hours ago, ocnblu said:

Very generic looking, soulless

so, every vw in the past 10 years?

3 hours ago, ocnblu said:

This is a national security concern.  We need to keep control of our industrial giants in case of war or some other event.  The fact that Italians run Chrysler pains me enough as it is.

^^^ found the big government socialist 

diesel’s the new lead, and just as we got rid of leaded fuel, we’ll get rid of diesel.

diesel’s mileage advantage has been eliminated with new gas and hybrid vehicles anyway

1 hour ago, smk4565 said:

M3 drivers will trade their car in on these as they flee sedans for "active lifestyle" SUVs.  

maybe the one or two who got their M3 money from an on-the-job brain damage settlement but the rest will just get cayenne's like rational people...

9 minutes ago, riviera74 said:

Who is doing quality control?

at fca? you must be new here. 

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you're implying used 500's have resale value? 

dubious quality or not, the 500 with the turbo is a fun, useful urban warrior and way more practical than a smart. 

mercedes gets away with their naming scheme because lay people covet their vehicles. 

cadillac needs names because they're forgettable otherwise. 

routan

13 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

How is that a problem for Acura? Acura has an ILX that is CLA sized. 

I'm not sure what you're saying here... 

because it's a) not really good compared to anyone else and b) you may as well just get a loaded civic

i'm saying acura sucks and doesn't offer anything that isn't already done better by someone else

i'd make a tasteless ww2 germany experiment joke but i do nazi any reich way to pull it off.

2 hours ago, ccap41 said:

CLA may dominate on a race track but it's tiny and cramped so it's give and take on what the buyer wants.  

but therein lies acura's problem... if a CLA is a little cramped or harsh, nearly everyone else has an entry-lux alternative with more space/comfort. 

acura's entire MO has been co-opted by everyone else. the only thing they have going is that their vehicles are based on honda's and people are asking why bother getting an Acura when a Honda can be optioned just as nicely and is potentially better. 

no one doubts that an fwd car can't be fun. it's that acura isn't fun and hasn't had a pulse since the TL's death. 

mercedes will sell you 'precision crafted performance' with their CLA... and so will these guys

Audi
Buick
Cadillac
Lincoln
Lexus
VW

alfa can't convince anyone of their italianness being superior to the germans so the french may as well just surrender this entire dumb idea.

oh look 2017 ended the way it started:

https://imgur.com/oOXDJDU