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because you know of endless examples of a nation of people who actually give a hoot about the health of their nations companies and industries- besides themselves?

doesn't matter to the discerning individual as long as they have a lexus in their garage.

i'm not using 100k as a factual benchmark and i don't mean FAMILY income. If two wage earners can pool 100k, that's doing good considering how effed the middle class is and how hard the two have to work to make it work. Nah, i am referring to those fortunate enough to have the dual wage earners who both make sick amounts of money and it allows them to lead the life of choice.....both work and you have money up the arse, and hence can afford to be very selfish in every aspect of your life, or the one wage earner makes enough to still allow princess mom to spend lavishly and feed her child rearing habit and still be upset because she didn't get to buy the 3k leather couch from restoration hardware. my basic beef is the wage spread in this country is WAYYYYYYYY too far apart, and as much as the upper CRUST likes to think they are immune to anything that would provoke inconvenience in their life, i think at some point that spread has to be reduced. One of two ways. The people in the toilet making more to pay 4 dollar gas, or the people who make way too much to just travel and sit in meetings and pretend importance will need their wages reduced so everyone else can stay employed and fuel the economy. there is no way anyone can logically justify why the low end folks in this country get screwed like they do in comparison. Such a shame we all can't parlay daddy's money into a private school mba just so we can drive that lexus and obsess about whether active torque split on the drive system meets our personal specs.

holy crap, the moral majority does post on here. are you gonna spank me now and take away my toys too, Jesus? I'd board the plane to Sudan to check it out now and see the po folk there, but the airlines closed down due to lack of business. It all got outsourced overseas because the execs thought they could get cheaper labor.

there are. just not all of them, much less most of them. It goes on every day. Just as the po judge the well to do, many of the well to do make tremendous sport out of judging every aspect out of those that are po. In every facet, intellect, looks, social graces, you name it. If you're not well to do, you might as well slit your wrists in some people's eyes. They don't say it outright from the mountaintops but its in the undertones of everything that goes on in this country on a day to day basis.

as an aside, i do believe people should have the choice to buy what they want, just that blind discounting of things produced by own people and not understanding how we should at least give some thought to that is my beef. If some of the overpaid folks in this country were even half mindful of how to be stewards with what they earn, then i would have no reason to bitch.

there's not a lot of people making 100k Mr. and there is no middle class these days. Feel fortunate if you are one of them. And be sure once in a while to look over your shoulder for the axe. The gravy train does end at some point.

in fairness accord and mazda 6 used to have v6 stick as well. camry too for that matter. mazda6 for 09, they got rid of the stick. fools.

the US aint europe. as per usual practice our quest for innovation solving problems will win out in the end rather than settling for lowest common denominator solutions

i for one applaud life's rant. he's speaking his mind and bringing up real issues. and he reflects what a lot of people feel, its just that we are forced into believing you should hide what you feel. I do not think life's rant ventured into inappropriate, its more about some of you being too sensitive and pussy eared to listen to it. now i can bring up the story my dad told me a couple weekends ago when i visited him up in farm country....(i.e. my hometown of 300 people happens to have a chevy dealer despite the largest GM full line dealer in the state being 25 miles away, and there is usually 20-30 or more trucks new on their lot at any one time and they move through them like water in a faucet). Trucks sell big and tradition dies hard. In this part, even Ford cannot sell trucks, GM is king. One of my dad's acquaintances from his implement selling days told him a story. He was out shopping for new trucks and he bit on the propaganda and went to the toyo dealer, who managed to talk him into dropping 40+ on a new Turd. The words no sooner left my dad's mouth (Tundra) and I knew what was coming. BLOWN EXPECTATIONS. Turns out it wasn't any of the common things, i.e. busted tailgate, bed bounce, engine schrapnel.....no his truck was getting EIGHT MILES TO THE GALLON. Buyer complained back to the dealer and they basically said it was his fault the way he is driving it. Stories like that get around farm country and I don't think we will be seeing big sales there. To get back to life's rant.......everyone who exclusively shops imports or is a big US brand hater, I think we need to examine why you can hate these people so much. Its because they are selfish and think their $h! don't stink and that they are untouchable. There is no reason for Camry and Civic to blow off the sales like they do being the mediocre cars they are when there are so many other excellent choices on the market. With all the choices and folks only gravitating to the lowest common denominator (camry) is absolutely insane. But it really is about how effed up in the head a lot of folks are. They sit and crticize the american automakers, and they don't even have a clue that Ford and GM are global and produce many good products. ANd these same people who are venomous in their disdain for US automakers, they think they are untouchable and exempt from criticism themselves. This is why they perceive things the way they do. In this regard, perhaps the move to outsourcing the country is ok. But let me say this. The only reason a lot of the DICKWADS in this country get away with it......example. Take your well compensated doctor who buys a Lexus. I suppose his industry is not under assault from other companies in a global market. It's not like if I need surgery I can be picky about and fly over to Japan to get my bone fixed. Said doctor doesn't need to make it up in his business for the doctors in Japan getting govt. assistance to prop up their financing. Or financial markets trader, how is that prick subject to losing all his business from foreign companies. Or the banker. Or marketing people. Let's let all these paper service industry jerks see their well being subject to companies from other nations coming in and assaulting their market. Lets see all our college professors have their status in the world threatened because we'll let the University of Calcutta send in 1000 profs for a new Masters program in DC or Denver or whatever. Basically a lot of folks are on the gravy train and their place hasn't been challenged. They think their $h! don't stink and they have no humility and don't get that chances are quite good outsiders could very easily invade their industry and displace their ass to burger king as well. I think that if a lot of these people who have too high an opinion of themselves had their run of the mill ass brought back down to earth and smelled their own turd for a change like the rest of us have been doing, maybe they would look at a few more things when it comes to purchase decisions. Rarely do i find that well compensated people in this country are exceptional people these days. They often are products of luck or snowballing people into thinking they are special. A lot of 'professional' people in this country really need to be brought down a couple notches. What they do and where they got is eye candy to cover up that they are specks of dirt like everyone else. It would be of benefit to us all if we could make all these people as replaceable as they treat everyone else. I for one am sick and tired of the self righteousness of the upper crap, um, crust in this country and the lack of worth they assign on everyone else. Chickens come roost. Maybe we need to have an economic crash to reassign the 'market value' of 75% of our country's population, the ones who make 6 figures or more. that might just send the best message.

maybe a whole new car would be simpler.

STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSES MOUTH. honda is vanilla!

NBA players like room in the 3rd row too i guess

no microsoft sync, no sale

civic is very popular, especially when gas is spendy. in this case i can live with the civic selling, as long as it takes the sale away from toyota. GM needs to figure out how to get in on this action. p.s. even the lancer is more interesting than the civic. the astra wishes it could do this well too.

sprinter rocks. who 3 years ago would have ever guessed the 300's fall from grace. thing is, the 300 is still a good car, even with a v6 instead of a hemi. live by fashion, die by it too. down 59%? wow. thing is, many folks driving large suv's would really like downsizing into a 300. journey is doing well but it looks like it is just making up for lost van sales more than anything. chrysler simply can't keep pace with new models and such. to bad, i would rather see them stay than toyota but this is not good.

BM been tanning? Hillary has a plan for obama, maybe she knows how to neutralize BM too.

agree 1000%

why cant i get a G5 turbo sedan ? i dont want a chevy.

vibes, g3's, g5's needed to keep BPG doors open.

ah, buickman stories are so golden. i bet he is distraught since the demise of the RDV. By the way, i bet he still sold 10 cars today while he was in the meeting. 3 in the restroom while peeing in between presentations.

hence vibes and G3's.

GM's continual problem, always 'cost concerns'. what does it cost them to lose a sale? cost concerns = short sighted, narrow minded. fusion has awd for crying out loud. subaru and suzuki compacts do. vibe does. cailber does. saab does now even. sheesh. i also read somewhere where i think it was lutz even said GM was not going to make zetas with awd, no plans for it.

perhaps that same logic is why the next impala will remain fwd

IIRC, zeta is not AWD capable. major flaw for winter states