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http://www.canadiandriver.com/testdrives/08camryhy.htm

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drive...photopanel..1.* so Edmunds gets sharp tongued at GM for making a hybrid. they test it for a lousy 887 miles to come up with a final verdict on mpg, and most of it HIGHWAY where the greatest mpg gains in hybrids are in town. They would not test a prius the same way. again, biased edmunds. but read it and get your own take. they can't stand how well executed it drives so they rigged the story to find as many ways to talk negatively about it as they could.

edmunds has a link for a sweepstakes that starts on 01/26 to win a new loaded G8 GT. however, i clicked the link and it said it was not working or something. keep your eye open for this sweepstakes.

my dad briefly sold cars for a dealer that also financed high risk bad credit buyers. those folks would buy anything that they could manage to get approved on. and the guy sold it at outrageous prices and 20+ % interest. And he could, because these folks had already effed up their credit. One thing he did, he always made an extra set of keys for everything he sold. They miss payments, the car was very easy to 'repossess' that way.

and its 5-60 time will be closer to 7 seconds. they had to wind it up to get that time. of course, the forester turbo will prob match that time for a lot less money. C/D got 3 mpg less with its RDX than the X3. turbo economy?

In America, right now, technical jobs hardly get proper pay and are taken for granted. The only jobs that seem to pay anything these days are Upper level bsuiness execs, marketing, lots of fluff jobs. These people always take for granted that someone with the techincal skill will make it happen at their behest, and for dirt wages. Back in the early days of NASA, the engineers were probably in greater control and got paid well. Today, engineers are micromanaged by 7 layers of buffoons, who think they know squat about squat. All who get paid more than the person who knows how to put together the end product.

with Carl Peter in charge, you won't get Zeta no matta.

it pay to be po'.

nah, he just likes to poke and prod. he has a list of people he just replies to if he wants to get on their case and agitate them. notice how he doesn't add case arguments for or against anything. he just makes a provacative statement much the way an actor may enter the room, hoping to take the attention of the crowd for a moment. Now if per chance he were to offer any sort of reason why an Acura would be a compelling argument over any of its comeptition, or any sort of reason why Acura's sales have gone in the tank, he's more than welcome to. As it is, he wants to make a showing in thread, rip on some folks he don't like for whatever reason, and then disappear from the thread after a few personal jabs. If he can explain the drop in the sales numbers of Acura's cars, I'd sure love to see it. It's pretty obvious that powertrains are one reason.

if they RDX were faster and used less fuel, then it's turbo motor would be worth praise, yes. I can forgive the average performance of the CX-7's powertrain, it's affordable. The RDX is darned pricey for what you get. In that regard, the powertrain is a big flaw. If the RDX were 10 grand cheaper like the CX-7, it would likely merit a pass. But that is just a microcosm of Acura as a whole. If they want to sell units at big boy prices, then what is under the hood needs to match the pricetag. A turbo four that drinks fuel and is bleh on acceleration adds no mojo to the brand. A TSX that sputters along adds no mojo to the brand. The TL moves out ok, but is hampered by its FWD only powertrain. The RL has a high hp rating but in its price class its acceleration numbers are merely so so. They don't suck, they simply don't add up to good luxury buys. summation=second tier. They either need to drop the prices or add performance so the equation = buy.

c'mon siegen. you know the buff book drove the Sclade as hard as the RDX and the RDX should be able to produce much better FE than it did. The two came out about equal which is scary since the sclade is like a ton more. And to say it got as good an mpg as the fuel sucking CX-7 is not helping. Both of those vehicles are prime examples of how larger N/A fours or small v6's would be better powertrain applications. Neither vehicle has a user report history of matching the best mpg of the other CUV's / cute utes in its class, what is funny is that neither of them is also an acceleration king. now if as you suggest it improves on FE with real world user reports than that is fine enough for me to lay off the sauce, but even then, there should not be such a wide spread between the FE in mild driving and wild driving. It leads me to think that Honda hasn't yet figured out how to squeeze upper tier power (-cough- and torque) and fuel economy out of a four cylinder at the same time. It leads me to think they have not optimized the fuel system or combustion chamber so as to achieve all benefits. In other words, they have yet ot achieve anything close to cutting edge, which again explains the second tier status. turbo, something honda is a novice at. saab, audi, vw, bmw etc. all way ahead on that front. even chrysler's caliber SRT and chevy's HHR SS make you question Honda's turbo skills. It should be fun to see Ford's ecoboost system put these Honda amateur turbos to shame when those come out.

silly people. endorse the check and send it over to Tokyo. Or, just buy another Toyota. That is what they expect us Amurchans to do anyways.

LMAO. i was reading the mitsu outlander brochure I picked up recently. It says 2 220 pound people can sit on it's tailgate. My aztek's tailgate is rock solid. My and another can sit on that, no problem. How cheesy thin must the tundra tailgate be if it can't support any weight?

I'm a ford fan, but no way in hell could I sign on for 8 years with an 01 taurus. Now a crown vic, different story. the body style will still be the same after those 8 years anyways........

the Vtec must have kicked in and overturned the car, it was such a power rush.

LOW TEENS. was it 12.9 or 13.9 that the RDX got for mileage? whatever it was, is was equal to what they got with the escalade in the same issue. again honda's v6 is now average, mid pack. they have no v8's and are getting killed my Merc BMW etc. their turbo 4's drink fuel like v10's their NA 4's still lack torque and have to revved to the moon to get power. Until Acura advances in powertrains they will be considered second tier.

think the type of van you ride in from the rental car lot to the airport terminal. a shuttle van, basically. daycares, churches, group homes may be the market. ones who don't want a mini school bus.

because at 40 cars a week, they can save the world...... ;P

the import craze is a product of the self directed lifestyle that many folks who are movers and shakers in the business world are responsible for. not so much because its import but because 'it's what they want' and simply won't consider anything less than what fulfills their own personal criteria. these people are not stewards of their companies, or communities, but they sure are adamant about making sure their own personal agendas are met. we need to reverse these bad thing that are happening, i.e. other countries owning us, companies caring about where our jobs are. i find it insane to think that today its cheaper to ship pez dispensers on a boat than it is to make a few of them locally. why should i have to talk to some guy in india i can't understand when my software needs tech support? just because they can always outsource, doesn't mean they should. just because that pez dispenser will be .01 cheaper if made in china doesn't mean its the right thing. but it doesn't matter as long as the manager or executive who decides that crap gets his bonus and imported company car. maybe we need to just shut down walmart. that alone would probably help the trade deficit, at least as a start. and it is really ignorant for someone to buy a toyota and deny it has a negative impact on our countries' well being. At least let's have fair trade.

acura has no exceptional powertrains. no v8's. their turbos use fuel like escalades. the v6's are middle of the pack.

busy dash

exceptional condition

the obstacle to buying a RWD biased car is removed when you simply offer AWD as an option.

no, honda just does not have attention to detail and does not know their customers. well enough. at least it wasn't cams snapping like on tundras or frames / unibodies crumpling like on the ridgeline. wanna know why honda's fit is so light? stuff like this. I would guess GM runs the wires somewhere where the roadsalt won't ruin your car's ability to protect your loved ones in a crash.

bite it, CRV.