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you conveniently forget the ford dealer will be knocking at least 3-4 grand off that edge MSRP. most edges on the lot are in the 27-33 range anyways. example. just on the lot, new edge sticker was 26800 dealer had it marked at 22,999. saturn will not be doing that.

you didn't read my first post in the thread? Jaguar. FOrd owns Jaguar. i bet a dual mode hybrid in the chinese park avenue would own this car.

yeah. totally. its barely much more $$$$ than a vue XR. the weight is not an issue since the vue is as porky and much smaller to boot so anyone who uses the weight as an issue against the 5 star crash tested edge is being slightly hypocritical. few other vehicles in this class weight much less. the extra weight of the edge contributes to the extremely solid chassis and quiet and solid ride. the edge is still 500 pounds lighter than the lambdas across the board. i can understand having an issue with an aerostar TWENTYFIVE YEARS AGO but think, this is the same 'my citation sucked', 'my vega sucked', 'my olds diesel blew up' arguments you hear import humpers using over and over again to buy less useful vehicles for more money. it's time to stop using that logic. that's like saying 'my sister stole my candy when we were 6'. my fords, my gm's all have been rock solid and in case you haven't noticed fusion is outranking accord and camry in cr and also my 500 is recommended and so are other fords. the duratec 35 is most proven engine in testing ford has ever built, is used in mazda products from japan and the new 6 speed is shared with GM so you can be confident in that. mazda would not put the motor in its cars if it were junk. the edge is built on a large chassis where the vue is a billeted redo of the theta which may not be able to handle the excess it is carrying. the edge has mazda6 componentry which is proven. if you dissect the murano and edge pricing, buy or lease, you will find that they are about the same. in this case i give the nod to the ford for various reasons. i do not think i would want to have a 1st gen NISSAN CVT, and the murano interior is tired as is the exterior. i know the murano handles well. the ford has the folding front passenger seat which is awesome for versatitility and i guarantee it will be cheaper to insure. the edge is only expensive for the very very top mostly equipped models. it is overall priced as good or better than most of its competition. enough sales job. just try one. satty and i recommend it. try the taurus x too. i understand if you've got reasons to not you might find it a better drive for the money than some of your other vehicles listed....or maybe not. who knows. ah, its always fun to see folks have the opportunity to get a vehicle they like that will suit their needs. good luck with the rest of the hunt. re: the nitro...i drove one, and i was appalled. I know it looks cool but the handling ride and interior were just not great. the seats were terrible. i'm certain you'd find an edge more refined overall even if you liked the way the nitro looked. the new pacifica with the 4.0l 6 speed combo was much better. was your nitro an R/T?

xB (ducks and runs) i might try to do that myself today. another plea....at least PLEASE drive the edge (right satty?) try a base cx-9, too. just for comparison. i've got a buddy who racked up his impala, he is looking at a mazda6 today. i am trying to talk him into the cx-7. i want to drive the cx-7 and cx-9 myself. the murano aesthetic is way tired. used SRX? certified preowned? sportcombi?

i like the jaguar xj. 3800 pounds. aluminum. style. great mpg. goes to show you, toyota is starting to stumble. I like this article. hits em right where they need to be hit.

i want a porsche xB

why not the edge? defintiely cost competitive with the murano. if you test the outlander, test the endeavor too. they sell for about the same price out the door. just find one with a tan interior. the dark int is dreadful how bout an outlook xe?

depends. which career will be outsourced to a foreign country first? you might want to think about that. the way its going.

5 speed? why not 6?

i hated the center console and stack, the gauges, and fur on the doors. hate the sweeping curve that goes from the door over the dash and stuff. seats are too low also. for that money it deserves a better interior.

what about the dude suing honda for getting 32 mpg in their civic hybrid. my father in law can get that sometimes on his olds 88 on a trip.

mercedes CLS has nothing to worry about

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Audio

maybe his tongue is pointy enough to SCOOP OUT THE EARWAX

help me out. wasn't toyota or honda sucking in europe. yet, gm can make gains. the euros would rather buy peuguots, fiats, citroens, renaults.....they don't blindly love asian products over there.

the renderings that were out on this vehicle a year ago were sexy. this looks like a bloated pig and a lexus GS crossed together. no thanks. i'll take the maserati.

saab needs a new aesthetic. gm, grow some balls and design a knockout car.

the media is hurting for jobs. today's lifestyle section front page in the paper here was an article copied from NYT about how the television female chefs are wearing plunging necklines. I kid you not. this after the star and sickle laid off like 140 reporters. and this is what they fill front pages with. i wonder if someday the media will take a hint that expert status doesn't get granted to you just because your spew ends up on newsprint. People exchange their own thoughts on the net, and really don't want to be bothered with self important, mindless, unqualified journalists anymore. Refreshing, if that comes out of this print houses losing big bucks.

LOL nissan sucks

yes. I'll one up that. not everyone is chaeffuerd to their cushy office in the capital. people who concern themselves with dictating how everyone else leads their life don't care though. they have tunnel vision. tell ME the people I know and grew up with in ND who live in the vast nothing but have tons of room and drive trucks really waste energy compared to urban bangers who consume a lot more resources than they think they do with their copious consumption. Al gore is proud of his weed bearning offspring who does prius track testing while running dope.

rear quarter shot looks like a phaeton for some reason.

its not a very expensive car though, kind of a 'what do you expect' sort of thing. plus its a nissan. for the actual out the door prices, the maxima current as a whole isn't terrible. i just don't like the DESIGN / packaging of the interior. I passed on a Maxima to get my 500 despite the maximas superior engine and handling etc. the next maxima i think needs a killer interior.

very many congrats!

bleh. BMW is out of ideas. do the hail dents come standard?

gangsta pickup. nice.