balthazar

Right- very good! And if a C63 starts at $68K... how is another same class performance vehicle that is cheaper than that, not welcome in the market?

• Package shelf got painted after the speaker holes were cut, and sound deadener adhered around those 2 holes. • Drilled holes to mount a funky Pontiac dome/swivel map light to the ceiling cross-rib. • There were 2 circa 2-in holes in the trunk floor to access the body mount bolts there, so whipped out some aluminum covers for those. • Cleared the car completely off- it's going outside under the sky on Saturday!

None of those listed musclecars are 'forgotten'. The Catalina 2+2 actually came out in '64, but the 421 wasn't standard, it was optional. A '64 Cat 2+2 421 would be tops for me.

This is where a consumer who values this sort of thing can get burned. 5-series is the 'loser' vs. the e-class because it loses 52.6% vs. 49.9%. This means the e-class is the better value, right? Wrong. The dollar numbers tell the bottom line: 5-series owner loses $27,800 but the higher priced e-class loses it's owner $34,146. Again, if this sort of thing is important to you, go for the 5-series and save yourself $6350.

Ask yourself this, and really think it thru. Why doesn't the C63 outsell the C300?

It'd make an excellent companion to the G-wagon ("Mini-G"), it's even got the external door hinges and surface-mounted lighting.

That's my point anyway- a mixture of both. Save the grand old buildings where feasible but of course also build new. WA Mutual bldg is absolutely a very nice design (but very expensive).

^ I posted that bit yesterday. It is interesting, but not uncommon- 100% occupancy is often tough to achieve. RE '$100-200M', you couldn't come close to building something like the Depot for that money. Even a modern 500K SF equivalent. So that's money saved.

Do know what that specific building is, or more importantly, the cost of it? Not just construction, but including design/engineering & permitting? Do you think it would be even within 50 times of the cost to renovate the Michigan Depot (which is already standing)? They built a new high school near me, a uber-complex footprint with a tremendously inefficient amount of external walls. Horrific waste of taxpayer money but "it's for the kids". Cost $185 million and it's only 2 stories. Just like a Mustang GT350 is 'too expensive', there are also economic reasons to renovate rather than build from scratch. Detroit has very tangible fiscal reasoning to approach revitalization this way.

"What if?" They already do; a 25% tariff on auto imports. And it's not GM in China, it's SAIC, a joint venture, IE: effectively half of it is a Chinese company selling GM cars. So cut GM's Chinese volume there in half.

Those little marker lights below the headlights must be mandated by either Canada or the UK, as the US cars don't have them.

If so, and I don't at all disagree, why would the USDM lose 1-2 million unit sales? Doesn't quite seem logical. Again: make it a licensing fee, not a parts or assembly plant location fee.

Correct- that's Syd. One can google 'syd barrett pontiac' and there's a number of shots. Further, the Pontiac is a Canadian, 'standard track' Parisienne convertible, so it's Chevy-powered. Scripts look like Bonneville scripts but car has Catalina taillights. - - - - -

• There are a number of reasons to skip buying new, and tariffs isn't the #1 reason by a long shot. • "it's just bad & outdated thinking to tariff things" - you & I are 'tariffed' every single day of our lives. Everyone is numb to it by now. • US has the world's highest GDP- EVERYONE wants to sell here. Many need to sell here. So don't call it a 'tariff', call it a 'licensing fee' for foreign companies.

EVERY country has tariffs on some goods. So it's global 'protectionism'... or its not. So it's 'bad'... or it's not. What's definitely bad for business is a vastly unequal playing field (regardless of where the chips fall).

huh.

Ford has said it's going to make it their 'alternative propulsion' headquarters, so it seem unlikely it would involve private ownership/rental... but who knows? The project may necessitate such inclusion to make a business case for it. No one is building grand edifice buildings anymore, always best to maintain past works when economically feasible. Detroit has lost so much architecturally, this one should be a keeper.

'Datsuns' was a dig, Cap't Deadpan. They don't have to be "19 feet long" to look good, they just have to look good.The old ones either look like poor approximations of MoPars (Coronet, Charger), or not that far from such stirring product as the Datsun B210.

Packard complex is in "really rough" shape, The Michigan Depot, I believe, is externally complete, structurally sound, secured, and already has all new windows installed. The scale of it is going to take a lot of money, yes, but I don't believe it will based on condition alone. I read the upper floors (I think it has 18) were never fully utilized/occupied, and that well may be the case again. Here in Jersey, the new commonality seems to be moving toward retail at street level & living space above. I always associated 'living above a store' with more of a 'financial uphill climb', if you will, but it nice enough, there's no problem with it, and there's also a level of self-sustinence, economically, with such an arrangement. In that Ford bought the property, it's unlikely to be getting into the rental game. ^ What does this mean? Make the outside all glass, because anyone can do just about any sort of commerce/business in any sort of building. And sometimes, the 'anchor' starts an area's revitalization, not the other way around.

Lot of MoPar in those otherwise generic, family-sedan datsuns. I certainly can understand performance attributes, but stylistically they see-saw from boringly bland to kinda ugly. You can make anything go/stop/turn quickly, might as well do it with something nice to look at.

Building renovation is one of the ultimate recycling scenarios. And buildings bettter still have uses or I'm buying stock in tent manufacturers. Detroit is a fairly unique scenario (given it's scale), and 'image projects' are pertinent to spur further revitalization.