Cmicasa the Great

If Buick starts selling it tomorrow.. I want your FIRM promise and check written to a Buick/GMC dealer by 12PM. Cause if U gonna make statements like this.. U should be able to back it up... come on.. COME ON!!!😎 Let U in on a secret.. 🤨

That statement can apply to every vehicle on the market today with exception to a few super-cars and a few luxuries. These for instance... if these are ever a CLASSIC, then enthusiasm is done and done for me. Bland boring and cookie cutter looking slop. As exciting to look at as a Corolla

No its not. In fact GM could still be selling 8 variants of the same vehicles but instead of doing so they failed to pull up all the stumps of perceptions within their deception. Changing the fronts, barely touching the rears, and leaving the sides exactly the same. Far cry from:

Still lost as to why this is an issue or concern. Corner the CUV market. Why does that cause so much of an issue? And Cadillac should have everything that Chevy has.. but at the same time get its own unique vehicles. Makes zero sense to create multiple platforms that don't get shared. OMEGA SHOULD BE AT CHEVY!!! Hope that causes some of U to burst into flames😂 YES.. That's exactly what it is. Not to mention its madly profitable. I don't think many of 'em know.. and quiet as its kept.. GM has somehow hit upon a formula that has yielded about $90 Billion in profits since BK.. they forget that GM without any efficiency lost $90 Billion before.

uh.. exactly. I didn't see it when I tried to build a base model vs a V6 almost same priced Blazer. Again.. the BASE Blazer is $2500 less than the Passport.. the Chevy still comes with Android/Apple. GREAT SAFETY FEATURE for me. Like keeping my eyes on the road.. But No one is holding a gun someone's head and saying they have to buy it. Chevy's base is cheaper.. because Honda is offering a bigger engine. Chevy will end up being equal priced with equal powertrain, albeit more powerful powertrain, because CHEVY OFFERS INCENTIVES and HONDA DOESN'T.. most of the time. Hey!!! Why are U not bitching at Honda for not offering.. OFFERING.. OFFERING.. a smaller more efficient and cheaper engine combo? WHY!? I like choices. Why are U OK with Honda not giving me a choice?

I cannot get with this idea that Cadillac should pretty much start at CTS-V. Come on. No other luxury brand starts at CTS-V levels. The CTS-V is discounted due to acceptance. It would be like Superman crossing over.. showing up on the door steps of Avenger's Mansions... and not after beating the SHAT outta Thor, Iron Man, and the Hulk.. deciding to just be in the same position as sad and BS position that they are putting Spidey in within the new MCU because he's the new guy in Marvel. YES!!! Cadillac is DC and BMW/Benz are Marvel. LOL. The Cadillac line-up has needed an ATS since 2003. The CTS should have never been a tweener. It set the stage for the issues the brand has now. Cadillac should have abruptly made the transition into Sport/Lux on day one of 2002 or that day in 2001 when the debuted the CTS at Pebble Beach. It simply didn't have to reinvent itself in terms of luxury.. just update the line-up with better handling vehicles, no different than what Benz did around 20002. And before 1999.. no one I know put Benz above Cadillac. And BMW and Audi damn sure weren't. Stale product didn't mean also ran. It mean fix your fukking line-up to accommodate the new buyers The DTS in the exact config as the CT6.. yes a BIG CADDY.. remember that most did not need for the FWD DTS to be continues since the preceding flagship, the Fleetwood had just died like 4 years ago. All the bells and whistles. No compromises, and at that time.. literally on the same level as the vaulted S-Class of the day. One by one they should have introduced the CTS in the same size the ATS has been.. The STS 2 years later in the same size the CTS is now. .. we would have been 4-5 years later, or 2004 the next gen DTS would be on ZETA, a brand new platform, as originally planned.. New DOHC engine called "Ultra.." in between all of that XLR, SRX, Escalades, BRX, XLRm. What I just typed is the original plan with a some time-line variations within the decade that was 1999-2009. CTS/CTC(oupe)/V XLRm/V STS/STC/V DTS/DTC/V XLR/V BRX/V SRX/V Escalade/ESV/ETC/V all avail in convertibles except CUV/SUVs

Then don't buy it.. stop bitching. Who are U advocating for? Perhaps I'm too far gone.. I only would buy a top of the line, or near, Blazer or otherwise. FWD PASSPORT is $31,990 V6 280HP/262ft-lbs FWD Blazer is $34, 495 (+$2505) 3.6L V6 engine 305 hp/269 lb-ft And while Adaptive Cruise Control is standard on the Passport.. why is Navigation now.. but it is on the Blazer. and WHY THE HELL CAN I GET ANDROID/AppleCar on the Chevy, but not the Honda and even more to the point.. WHY THE HELL over a $2K difference between a Blazer and Passport knowing that the MSRP is currently minimum carrying $3K in incentives, while the Honda is carrying none. Again.. CHEVY better not fukk me.. Honda.. fukk away

Yeah.. We also have to come to grips with the idea of.. if we are playing CEO.. what would U actually do as a CEO? Seriously. This is a car forum and news group.. but we are convinced as real live car enthusiasts that the only way U can purchase this vehicle is in top of the line Premiere or RS form above $45,000, and that none of the other competitors offer their vehicles in a similar price point, even when they were NEW for 2019. Oh wait! Am I the only one who will be holding his chest in laughter if the new Murano, Edge, Passport etc come out with a similar price to this brand new vehicle due to rising costs of materials and a real life trade war going on between the magnificent United States of America and its fake necessary labor and finished material donor China? The Blazer is no more overpriced than a Honda Pilot or upcoming Passport. GM needs to price their vehicles where they feel they can amend the publics' perception of price point and worth, coupled in with their mastery of price manipulation in consumers mind's via discounting. I'd rather GM sell me a Blazer that MSRP at $51k and give me $3k worth of discounts, than Honda sell me a Passport at $51k, no discount and then tell me I should be happy to pay it. In that situation I'm going to need some Kool-aid to go with the KY they neglected to use on my Bum. Amazing when consumers are happy to be screwed by the foreign makes and made to pay top dollar for par products, yet expect to pay less for the domestic product, while demanding superior quality, WOT factories, and higher pay and no lay offs to the workers, while still bad mouthing domestic product and attempting to divert sales to aforementioned par competition. Someone brought up Acura.. An RDX is not, in reality, a vehicle worth $37k. Its a Honda CRV with leather and bigger engine. People seem to give it a pass because Honda tells them that Acura is something special. It's not. This is not the brand that once helped usher in Japanese luxury with the Legend. A brand that might be more damaged and insignificant than Lincoln. Actually might isn't even necessary. The Chevy Brand has been pulling in very nice conquest sales and transaction prices. To think of it as an "every man's brand" these days is really cutting it close. A Chevy can be bought starting at $13K, yes, but a Chevy can also come in at $120K as well, or even $80K for a pick-up. The Blazer should do fine, despite the detractors who haven't touched the steering wheel as of yet saying that its a bad value. NEWSFLASH! All cars these days are bad values unless you buy used. Quibbling over a $2K difference between a Blazer and an Edge or Murano, is silly as it is ridiculous. Especially when it is a known fact that GM will have boukkoo incentives available at launch most likely and still make mad profit off the vehicle due to various reasons, no the least is that its platform has been on the market now for almost 3 years.

I don;t even see the 2.5L when I look at these vehicles. V6 only.. and that's the only metric I've used in pricing. I'm not going to sit here and dictate limitations on a mainstream brand. On Caddy.. yeah.. I say sure limit it to forced induction only. On a Chevy... no.. choices are better. YES!!!😁 Love it that someone else remembers the companion brands. Marquette/ Buick, Lasalle/Caddy.. Viking/Olds, Pontiac/Oakland

I used other examples of the exact same size (VW/AUDI/POR- and Lex/Toy) but actually the 3 Series and 5 Series argument was more brilliant.. because they are on the same fukking lot criss-crossing in each others pricing. Its a fact of car sales. Also.. are U downing the Kohls sales model? Spoken like a true individual who has no business trying to dictate how sales works. Kohls' business model is actually quite successful, with very nice profits. The Stock is a very happy camper in my portfolio Yet very little in terms of acceleration superiority. Have U seen the numbers? Where the hell is that extra toque going when it is only yielding about 3/10ths in acceleration? GTFOH!

Buick is the odd man out in this country.. as it focusing on CUVs here but has a full line-up in China selling over 1.2 Mill last year I believe there alone. The issue with Buick doesn't have to be an issue to be honest.. because out of all the brands that I could see as direct competitors.. Buick and GMC could be that since they are on the same showroom.. BUT!!! No one looking at Buick in that same showroom is really looking at GMC and vice versa.. It is most likely why U are seeing the Acadia and future offerings "Toughing Up." The Acadia, if U notice, now has a square jaw.. Buick a round face. As to Caddy. Where are they changing focus in reality? Not once do I recall them saying that they are getting out of the Lux-Sport game.. just going about it differently in terms of powertrain in 5 or so years. RIGHT NOW.. The CT4 and CT5 are testing and could debut soon.. the CT6 has new legs.. the CUVs are no different than they were in SRX days.. and the Escalade is still King, with a new one on the horizon. It must also be noted that there is definite talk of the "Escala" still coming in 2021. JDN's plan has not in anyway been abandoned just because he jumped.. got pushed off.. ship. That makes zero sense in terms of your aforementioned commentary on styling as the catalysts. Styling is styling.. there is only one car I know of that has always attempted to stay looking "a to b" for the sake of it and that's the Corolla.. and even that now is trying to look sporty

How is that relevant in a Go Go world??? Most of the real car buyers.. THE REAL CAR BUYERS... the mainstream.. doesn't even know that Cadillac is a part of GM. It was so bad a decade ago that GM decided to put "GM" Chicklets on every vehicle just to inform the buyers. That stopped. So much so I have a friend who recently bought a Traverse for himself, his wife has an XT5, and they are looking out for a decent blip of inventory of the Blazer for their daughter who is about to graduate Grad school in the Spring. In conversations with him and his wife, they not once seem to realize that they are driving platform mates. His wife didn't even know that the XT5 and Traverse were apart of the same corporation until they got their statements the same day from GM Finance.

I really think this is the concensus of this thread.. That Chevy should be a discount brand offering everything the other makes do but cheaper because it's GM. I showed even that the Edge is pretty expensive. It's the same bull people pushed for Caddy.. That the CTS, for instance, was only great if it were a tweener, offering more for less than the Germans, but it still better compete or beat them.

The thing is that GM may be, and I said they should a while ago, finally allowing the divisions to have some autonomy from the rest. Like the old days. Chevy should be concerned with what Ford, Toyota, Honda etc do.. They shouldn't give a rats ass what Cadillac is doing. Each brand should in essence earn. And in truth.. If people buy it. Let them

Love the silver, but I'd do it with Black wheels.. No car should have gray interior tho.. None.. But the vents actually do a sensational job in the Camaro of heating and cooling. Seating positions are similar. Heat rises. And they also serve as controls. Either way.. Why is Chevy wrong and Ford OK wth the Edge St? My only issue, in fact, with the Blazer's exterior really lies in the chrome in the front.. Which I'd black out as soon as I got it home

I understood that but the the marketing is plain and simple. Sporty vs Luxury. U guy's point of view can be pushed towards any manufacture, and GM is not unique in offering same size offerings from two different divisions with crisscrossing prices at some point in the trims availability. Lexus RX vs Highlander. VW Toura vs Audi Q or even Cayenne. Acura MDX and Pilot. Go do those charts. BMW and Benz benefit not having to do this because they have no other divisions. It really doesn't even have to come to a Chevy buyer isn't going to cross shop a Caddy and vice versa.. How many times do U folks have to hear.. THE PRICE OF THE BLAZER IS INFLATED FOR THE SAKE OF DISCOUNTING! It is what it is. Sales 101. Make the customer feel like they are getting a discount. It works particularly well on mainstream products. Ask Kohls, Walmart..

The Blazer being used a top of the line RS fully loaded versus a base XT5 with a few add ons.. The Blazer starts at $29K. The Cadillac XT5 that starts at $43K. So what I'm seeing is that the BLAZER can be optioned out to the same price as a base XT5 . Which makes all the sense in the world. Betcha y'all didn't know but a 3Series can be optioned out to the same price as a 5Series😱 The lease payment be damned.. because that is a true variable in the payment process with Chevy apparently offering a 6.1% and Cadillac offering a .02%. But the larger question is why lease this vehicle at that rate when financing it would be the cheaper route? Do people in 2019 LEASE Chevys that are not over $60K?

Its even worse.. while I thought the Model S at least was as attractive as say a run of the mill Mazda 6.. the Model 3 is awkward and weird looking.. They should have named it the Salamander instead of Model 3.. GIVE IT A NAME.. like U all say Caddy should have

My Birth year!!! A 72 Eldo looks like to me.. Loved that car

The C7 has been reported to most likely be sold next to the C8 for at least a year. The C8 is a complete and radical change in a car that has been FE for 66 years. There will be a bunch of disgruntled buyers who will reject the ME Vette no matter how good it is.. citing it as going European. Makes sense. In fact.. I really hope the FE Vette continues on next to the C8 for a while... effectively making a start to a Corvette BRand

smk... Hidden vents are nothing new.. even Jag had them a few years back in the XF

The bottom one looks like it is nothing special IMO.. the Slade and the Tahoe both look like some one actually put some thought in to it. Even more on my mind.. is that a Q8 interior? More like a concept Q8.. cause the Q8 has a different interior I thought

Stop being a dullard.. Corvette could quite possibly be being over built, if the C8 comes out and GM has no plans to build the C7 along side it for 2020. It is a huge rumor and possibility that the C8 is gonna see the most expensive price hike in Vette history. Doesn't hurt to have '19s on hand to keep sales going. And truthfully no one is gonna lack for performance from the C7 anyway. My Stingray was a performance KING.. my Z06.. a GOD. I almost hope they continue making the FE Vette, but I could see how that would be redundant. Besides.. the Camaro has 90% of the Vette's performance. It really should and could be in Camaro7 Form a new Flagship for the Chevy brand with the Corvette FINALLY getting to graduate to full on Brand of its own.

2020 Escalade may just debut by the end of year.. The Shifter is fine, but considering.. they may go to a push button one similar to this. The interior of the Esv

Its not worth no damn $92K. I don't give a damn 700hp or not. Get out of here.