Camino LS6

Ones that will ensure we'll have resources and clean air in one hundred years. You actually believe this? Can I interest you in a bridge?

Sorry to say, but it didn't happen. The phone number the guy gave me is "out of service". No response yet to my follow-up e-mail. No wonder it hasn't sold yet!

Hey, I'd qualify for that sort of thing myself...

How did we all miss this one? Hope you had a great day, and are having an even better evening!

You need a sandblasting guy, not a body shop. And I'm not so sure sandblasting would be very kind to a piece of trim like that. I'd call a chrome shop and ask about that before doing it. But blasting that should be very cheap if you go that route.

Looks ok, if a bit predictable.

To take this back to the original article, let's think for a moment about the implications of the projection that these engines will ramp-up to 2 million units per year. That's 2 million cars per year with displacements of 1.5 liters or less. Now, what sort of cars do we expect those to be?

Your belief that every car on sale today is a FWD 3cyl sedan seems to be a little, well, wrong. That is certainly not my belief. I've laid it all out already in this thread, and the facts are there despite the snide mockery.

Actually, the entire GTO program cost less than the new nose for the '98-2002 F-bodies. Per S.S. BTW.

And so?

So goes the chant, but with damn few results.

Yeah, they no longer sell the coil. Seems that the supply was all NOS stuff, and that has all gone bad with age.

I like the sound of that, hope it happens for you.

You know I will. But that seems to lead to nothing but hopes dashed - repeatedly. I do fervently hope that you are right - it would satisfy my own needs quite nicely. However, what about smaller 4cyl RWD? Or even V6 RWD?

Yes, but to replace current RWD rather than augment it, right? So, I'll be left with a different Camaro and nothing more to choose from. Maybe a Buick? Not so rosy an outlook. Yeah, it could be so much more... but would you advise me to hold my breath?

I guess that many here are fine with the notion that RWD (and performance in general) becoming the exclusive province of the well-heeled. I'm not. So, in this huge market, I'm left with three flavors of retro-musclecar to choose from. That's it, nothing more. Don't tell me they can't do better than that.

Narrow? No,what's narrow are the current offerings.

Add to that that almost everything is sedan only, and most are automatic only. And now we have an increasing number of those becoming 4cyl. only. Yes, choice is diminishing. Small, medium, and large in white and beige - how exciting.

For 2012 the F-series has a choice of a V6, Turbo-V6, 5.0 DOHC V8, 6.2 liter SOHC V8, 6.7 liter diesel (5-choices) For 2012 the Camaro has a choice of 3.6 liter V6, 6.2 liter V8, 6.2 Liter Supercharged V8 (3-choices) For 2012 the Mustang has a choice of 3.7 liter V6, 5.0 DOHC V8, and 5.4 liter Supercharged...... we also know that Ecoboost is coming to Mustang to ad a fourth engine choice. (3 choices with a 4th coming) For 2012 the Cruze has a choice of two 4-cylinder engines, both available with a manual and with a diesel engine coming next year (2 choices with a 3rd coming) If you want to count the Verano and Volt, add the 2.4 Ecotec, 2.0T Ecotec, 2.5 eAssist, and Voltec to the list for a total of 7 choices of power train in a compact car platform. For 2012 the Regal offers a choice of base 4-cylinder, low end Turbo 4-cylinder, high end turbo-4, and eAssist (4-choices) For 2012 the Silverado has a 4.3 V6, 4.8 V8, 5.3 V8, 6.2, 5.3 V8-Hybrid, 6.0 V8, and 6.6 turbodiesel (7-choices) Tell me the fairy tail again about how choice is diminishing? No fairy tale whatsoever. Trucks aren't at issue here. In cars, GM offers exactly one RWD choice that isn't Caddy or Corvette. Everything else is FWD. Clear enough for you?

It's the thought that counts, Balthy. I'll just have to order the parts and hope for the best.

Update: I may get to see it tomorrow.

Well, I hope for GM's sake that you are right. But one look and the words "stupendously ugly" come to mind. I guess we shall see. Would you have approved those headlights?

That Hummer HX concept was brilliant and innovative. It would be a shame to waste it.

I'm with you on just about all of that, Hyper. In this environment, I think simple and solid would sell quite well. And they really should go after Jeep.

The guy with the Suburban finally answered my second e-mail. But the message was unclear, he hasn't sold it, but the way he worded things I'm not sure that it's available. We'll see. I'd love to dump the ROPOS.