Camino LS6

Yup. It's hideous, but that doesn't mean it won't sell. I would never own such a thing, but it may have a market, and it would help with CAFE.

I can't really say on the V6s, the cars they are used in have different requirements. DOHC may make more sense there since the V6s are not simply little V8s as they once were. It really is apples and oranges, and right now OHV V8s are superior in the applications where GM uses them. That's proven by their real-world performance, including economy. The point is, there is no advantage to be had by going DOHC.

We will have to wait and see how the tech is applied to the existing engines. What you propose would be far more expensive, and risky than advancing the LS series. I have no doubt that when/if the LS V8s can no longer be on a par or better than another architecture, they will be replaced. The fact remains that they are more than competitive today, and have great potential for further develpoment. It simply doesn't make sense to abandon such a successful format at this time. When no more potential for the smallblock was there to be had the LS was born. Until that fate compromises the LS, I expect to see GM evolving it over time. Such a progression is what reliability is made of. DOHC will never be the determining factor in a change to a new V8, someday it may "come with the package", but that's about it. Other technology will be far more important.

The risk is there, but it is far from the same situation as the late 70s. This time around, weak, detuned, engines won't simply be dropped into the same heavy car designed for far greater output. As long as performance is maintained (or increased) in a given model, GM will look like a hero.

And no one switched to Ford when they went DOHC either, in fact the Silverado has been endangering Ford's "sales lead" increasingly without the help of GMC's numbers. No advantage for GM is in the offing by switching to DOHC in trucks (quite the opposite, actually). Huge risk for no reward. GM's trucks are already more powerful and efficient than Ford's, ther is just no case to be made for a switch.

Applicable, yes. But in no way superior. Not in power, reliability, nor economy - that crown belongs to GM's pushrod. Ford developed their DOHC in flush times, and gained no real advantage. It actually stands as a good exapmle of why GM should not roll the dice - what would it gain? A wholesale move to DOHC V8s would cost a mint with zero market impact.

Ford owes its market lead (thin as it is) to the split between Chevy and GMC trucks, not to anything else.

Nice summation, Zo6. Let's also remember how badly, and expensively, the Tundra failed. GM can afford no such mistakes.

Got me. I see it.

The core of this issue is trucks, any new V8 architecture will be created with trucks as the determining factor in the design. It is only through adaptability of a truck-based design that we have V8s for Camaro, Corvette, and CTS-V. If a new DOHC V8 is ever developed, it will have to cater to truck applications first and foremost. And, it will have to bring one whole hell of alot more than a DOHC configuration to the table to ever be approved. Remember now, that CAFE functions on the concept of an average and that GM has already made great strides in efficiency in non-V8 applications. Not to mention the efficiency of the current V8s is outstanding to begin with, and weight reduction across the fleet is a main focus. V8 powered cars will improve in efficiency no matter what, and performance in the real world will be maintained via weight reduction and other technology -based advancements. GM knows how to do this, and they have risen to the challenge every time the bar has been moved. Their V8 technology is not behind the curve at all, and won't be in the future. In fact, if GM had been as good at keeping other aspects of its products as up to date and real-world effective as the V8s have been, they wouldn't be in such a tough spot as they are today. The elimination of the V8, and the addition of DOHC to it, are not immediate issues for GM. A healthier, profitable, GM may choose to develop a DOHC V8 for premium models some day, but it won't be tomorrow, and it won't supplant the pushrod V8 except in low volume products. The V8 will continue to evolve as it always has, adapting to changing parameters as required. With all of that said, I do expect to see a reduction in both displacement and output of V8 engines going forward, but with an offset of weight reduction and midigating tech that maintains performance levels. GM has the best drivetrain folks on the planet who have proven again and again that they can meet whatever requirements are thrown at them. No one does the V8 better than GM - no one.

New server makes all the difference.

I know, but that track is more than a little obscure.

Good call, PCS! Surprised that someone recognized it.

Thanks for the input , Balthazar.

I believe in fires at midnight when the dogs have all been fed. A golden toddy on the mantle a broken gun beneath the bed. Silken mist outside the window. Frogs and newts slip in the dark too much hurry ruins the body. I'll sit easy, fan the spark kindled by the dying embers of another working day. Go upstairs, take off your makeup, fold your clothes neatly away. Me, I'll sit and write this love song as I all too seldom do. Build a little fire this midnight. It's good to be back home with you.

Priceless!

If you talk to him, tell him I said "Hello".

The Cien would make a huge splash with any powerplant. Though it deserves something very special.

She's leaning toward selling it, but hasn't decided yet. There are a number of reasons why... but I'll just leave it there.

I've been wondering how he and his family are doing.

What's an original '38 Dodge sedan in decent shape worth? By CaminoLS6

Nice to see a manual being offered in any GM product. Now, let's hope they spread the good stuff around to other offerings.

I've never been too impressed by the build quality of RVs in general. I expect some issues like you describe.

I've never regretted seeking out low-mile vehicles. Seals are a minor thing..

Thus it won't happen.