Camino LS6

Viper Venom?

Genesis A Trick of the Tail

I wouldn't count on that, seems a new movie is on its way. Star Trek, like performance cars, always comes back just when you think it's all over.

Let me know when the time gets closer, I may take the train up.

Don't the Borg always lose in the end? :AH-HA_wink: No compromise.

I'm thinking about it. I'd really like to see the GMC "Crewman" in person.

What matters is what he chooses to buy in the future, not what he may have purchased in the past. No? :AH-HA_wink:

If you're going to be like that ...

Funny, yet sad.

Crack The Sky Nuclear Apathy

Sad, but true.

There used to be an old Volvo wagon around here with Maserati Biturbo badges on it.

Same here.

Blind Faith Can't Find My Way Home

I want all debt gone, so if I get anything that's where it will go.

I'm planning to look into it for Project Camino. I want FI though.

Ah, ok. Here's where that stands. I still admire all three. The only one I'd consider for purchase new would be the Volt, simply because it represents such a quantum shift in technology. That said, if it loses its look too badly getting to production, I'll skip it. The HHR would be hard to resist if it were RWD or AWD, but FWD is the dealbreaker there. The Mini is horribly overpriced even used, so I will admire it from a distance. EDIT: And, as long as cars like G8, Camaro, the Kappas etc, are still around the FWDs don't stand much of a chance. Not to mention, that there is a whole host of used cars I'd rather have than any of the FWDs new.

You've lost me there.

And don't forget that Americans won't give up their ATVs, Boats, Snowmoblies,Watercraft Horse trailers... You are still pissing into the wind on this one.

No chance, my friend. As I said before, I have no choice day-to-day. The truck is a requirement, you and everyone else will just have to pay more to cover the fuel expenses of every contractor that works on your home. Meantime, I will drive my toys no matter the cost. I don't drive them enough miles to care about the per gallon price. Of Course, it might be fun to convert to E-85. :AH-HA_wink: Never under-estimate the lengths an enthusiast will go to to drive what he wants.

Small cars will never do, diesel or otherwise. I really have no choice about it either, I will always need my Silverado daily. The good part is, anything else I might own needn't get high mileage. I will always have my V8 toys. No small cars for me, thank you.

Thanks for posting the rest of that,PCS. It's clear to me that Lutz at least understands the realities of American car-buying tastes. That's a good thing. It is also good to hear him pushing E-85 and other biofuels. Logic prevails? I hope so. Change the fuel, not the cars.

Why do people do this?

Yeah, according to those UAW documents. But that deosn't mean that Oshawa wasn't in line for part of the action as well. If they build that GMC Ute, I could see Oshawa getting that and maybe a wagon-based crossover as well. Seems alot rides on the CAW negotiations.

...and GM is recovering nicely in North America while expanding dramatically in important markets around the world such as China and Russia. No, this will be a long battle. I expect quite a few lead changes as the years unfold. A dominant number #1 won't happen again for a very long time.