Camino LS6

Buick and GMC are on his "eventual target" list as well. He wants us all to die of boredom with only the choice between Chevy and Cadillac. No thanks, I'll take the zero.

None of which has the power to keep me in the GM fold.

Skylark, and I don't know if it is for sale.

If I understand it correctly, 1.2 MPG is added to flex-fuel vehicles for CAFE purposes. That provision is set to expire in 2019 IIRC. Congress needs to be pressured to do better than that.

...what looks to be a '65 or '66 Buick Gran Sport stashed behind a local Chevy dealership. The car appears to be very complete and solid and original - right down to the hubcaps. Faded paint (looks original) and worn out seats, but no visible signs of rust. Should be an easy resto.

Getting this changed would be like pissing into the wind.

Your post makes a great case for selling Zetas for as long as they meet the current model year regs.

The wide range of people expressing a desire for the ST should be a clue for the beancounters to take a look outside for a change. You can mark my GXP manual version "sold" today.

Optimization for Ethanol would introduce pros and cons, but the pros would far exceed the cons. Consider this: it costs GM less than $200 per unit to convert existing models to E-85.

"Internal", you say? Who wrote them,you?

UGH! And it's such a clean, low-mile example too.

Over the last few years, I've given serious consideration to the idea of picking up a C-4 ZR-1.

Don't be too jealous YJ, it's just lipstick on a pig anyway.

*yawn*

And don't forget GM's new partner in ethanol tech, they have developed a process that uses garbage to produce ethanol. With all of the new tech, this is becoming a no-brainer.

Considering that they can't import more than about 10k due to capacity, they will have no problem selling every one.

Here's hoping that those behind this course of action become intimate with bitter disappointment in the near future.

True, but at 25-75% of the cost per gallon it is till the better deal even before you factor in the myriad other benefits of adopting it large scale.

E85 cars are not optimized for ethanol, so mileage and power output are less than E-100 can potentially deliver. Remember also two key points: Ethanol can be produced for as little as $1.00/gal. without subsidy and , it is a domestic fuel. The implications are enormous.

Given the recent rash of purely stupid decisions...

Very pleasing sight.

You have to question the logic of having that vehicle represent Chevrolet in new markets where GM wishes to grow the brand. Sort of like saying " We want you to buy the junk we can't sell elsewhere".

The tech exists to produce both Ethanol and Hydrogen without negatively impacting food production nor the use of natural gas. You guys need to check the alternative fuels/propulsion forum and get up to date. Ethanol is the only alternative that is ready now to a significant enough degree that it can have a measurable impact. It is also the gateway to other alternatives. It is the easiest fuel to convert to and represents the best opportunity to get the most vehicles off of oil today.

I think you guys all know I have a huge soft spot for 70s rwd stuff. :AH-HA_wink: But I do understand Fly's infatuation with this Jag. I spent a considerable amount of time being responsible for the up keep of a '99 Vanden Plas (LWB XJ8). It was really a nice car to drive and had a breed of class untouched by any other luxury make. It did have its gremlins ( a frozen battery for example), but over the 4 years or so that I was responsible for its upkeep, there was almost nothing in the way of electrical issues. There were some problems, but none to the point of emulating earlier Jags.

I stand corrected. I think.