wildpaws

Gee, what a wonderful assessment/indictment of NASCAR racing. You don't have to like it, but you could at least be a little tolerant and not make nasty (and I do mean nasty and uncalled for) comments about it. Clyde

I liked the Ute Maloo that was shown on a recent Top Gear episode. It was up on YouTube for a while but taken off for copyright reasons. Clyde

HyperV6, I totally agree!! I've been ranting and raving on many forums the last few months, I'm not picking on either major political party as I think they are both full of idiots that have absolutely no idea how to effectively run this country. Our personal choices and freedoms are disappearing faster than any possible climate change, they can't come up with a budget based on the taxes that come in, they increase existing taxes and add new ones every day, they would not recognize the US Constitution if it smacked them upside the head. They can't enforce existing laws, so they pass more new ones every day that they will not be able to enforce, our spineless "Supreme Court" is suffering from a severe case of not upholding the US Constitution (and has been suffering so for the last 50 years or more), we are being led down the road of "globalization" of the USA and losing our country. The problems and issues we will have being able to get autos and trucks of our choice (instead of what our government mandates) will seem like a non-issue when the public at large finally wakes up and realizes that we are totally screwed in every facet of our life. I don't see any existing political party that is willing to go far enough to keep our country as it should be, all I see is people looking to promote their own agendas and the country be damned. I certainly plan to buy a 2SS (unless they happen to come out with a ground shaking Z/28 or hipo engine package that will use even more fuel) and I fully intend to burn every last gallon I can afford to put in it. They'll have to pry the keys and steering wheels of my Camaros and SUVs out of my cold, dead hands (along with my Ribeye steaks, smokes, and what ever else I feel like indulging in). Clyde

How so? Is not the current RS package an appearence only package just as it has always been since 1967?? Clyde

Then you'd better wake up and smell the coffee!! Where have you been for the last 30-40 years while the fools at Disney on the Potomac have ruined most everything they have touched, passed laws and regulations that make little or no sense, and have sucessfully snuffed out much of our personal freedom and choices. Trust me, just as Rick Waggoner was replaced, there will be more and more laws and regulations brought to bear on GM (and others), if you think you will continue to have the choices and options that you should have you will be sadly mistaken. I feel that the new GM Chairman Obama will not hesitate to shut down Pontiac and anything else he feels like doing, and you won't even hear a whimper from the Supreme Court about what is/isn't constitutional. Clyde

If I recall correctly, the hood is aluminum on the new Camaro. Clyde

Lots of nice cars in this thread including many of my favorites such as the Nomad wagon. Clyde

I agree with your statements. We also have to remember that the Congress and banks together pushed through programs which made thousands of loans to people that would not normally qualify for loans, in many cases not even verifying that they had a job much less that they had sufficient income to repay the loans. If GM can get enough concessions from the unions and also cut enough costs through getting rid of extraneous expenses, then there is hope for a leaner/meaner GM to emerge that will operate at a profit while producing vehicles that consumers want and are willing to purchase. We can only hope that the government does't strangle them by forcing them to build nothing but uninspired fuel effecient econoboxes. Clyde

Unfortunately the way the fools at Disney on the Potomac are running things and passing laws that continue to infringe more and more on our personal freedoms, I can only see the overall picture for all US citizens getting worse, not better. And I don't think there will be any significant change in that direction unless and until the US population at large gets fed up enough to finally say enough is enough. And it is a terrible thing that the country would ever have to reach that point, but I certainly have not seen anything in my almost 6 decades of life in this country but less freedom year after year. Clyde

And if you truly believe that hogwash, I've got a bridge for sale near Brooklyn, NY at a very reasonable price, email me ASAP for pricing! Clyde

It could have been like a stimulus package and tax cut rolled into one, unfortunately the price of everything else has gone out of sight, one need only to take a trip to the grocery store to see that. Clyde

Well that same thing can be said for almost every action they have taken in the last thirty or more years. "Lack of connection with the average person"?? They are so far out of touch with reality that I don't think they could grab their ass if they had to!! Much less understand what the average citizen feels about anything. And it makes no difference if you're talking about Republican, Democrat, or Independent lawmakers, they are all off in LaLa Land. Clyde

I'd be happy to help you with that, unfortunately there is so much of it to be kicked that we'll likely wear ourselves out!! Clyde

Why would you expect anything less than this nonsense of 50mpg fleet average from the lunatics at Disney On The Potomac?? They have not lived in reality in the last 40 years!! Clyde

If you think the new 2010 Camaro is ugly, then don't buy it! The manufacturers can't please everyone with one car, just buy the Challenger you like even if the Camaro is "a good deal for the car though". Just FYI, the new Camaro was never intended to be a clone of the '69 Camaro, just some styling cues were taken from the '69. Clyde

Right show, wrong year, it was the 2006 NAIAS at Detroit in Jan. 2006. And a lot of people keep complaining that it took "too long" to bring out the production Camaro, I think just over three years from concept to production is pretty reasonable! Clyde

Not quite, concept was revealed January '06. Clyde

There was also a 302cid V8 late in the '67 model year (read Z/28). Clyde

OK, I went in this morning and copied the web addy directly from the myproductadvisor website, I've tried it three times over several hours and this link works following the original instructions (you only need to answer one question in the "Auto Usage" section then click on recommendations to get the Camaro link). So here is the correct link to start from: http://www.myproductadvisor.com/mpa/auto/i...ry.do?refId=cs3 Clyde Edit: The C&G site keeps changing the link when I post it, it still worked for me, I hope it does for everyone else.

Here is the link off of the Camaro5 forum: http://www.myproductadvisor.com/mpa/...y.do?refId=cs3 . It looks like the link in this thread was not complete. Clyde

There are about six pages of posts here about completeing the survey: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.p...5785&page=3 , I don't think I saw anybody in the entire six pages say they could not get to the Camaro specific part, so I don't know what the issue is. And it's the same on a couple of other forums I'm on, no problems there either. Clyde

Well I can't tell you why so many here are having problems, like I said in my first post on this thread, I saw the link on another forum, filled out the survey completely, hit the reccommend button and went directly to the Camaro portion. So no problem for me to access it. Clyde

How much more in the way of exact instructions do you need? Do EXACTLY what it says and you will get to the Camaro specific part AFTER you fill out the general survey. Clyde "Note - you must access the site by this specific url. http://www.myproductadvisor.com/mpa/auto/inputSummary.do The process is pretty easy, but a little time consuming (plan to spend about 20 minutes answering questions). The site is split into a number of sections from "Auto Usage" to "Recommendations". These sections are dedicated to general automotive consumer research -- not just sport cars like Camaro but other cars and trucks (for example you’ll be asked questions on truck bed length, four cylinder engines, turning radius, etc.). We suggest you answer the questions on the site as if your mind is set on the Camaro (or like vehicle). Please start the survey by clicking and answering a question on "Auto Usage." You have the option of answering all the applicable questions in each section (highly recommended), or just answering one question in "Auto Usage", and moving directly to "Recommendation" button on the right corner. In this survey, the "Recommendation" button will not provide an automotive recommendation, but will start the second part of the survey which is dedicated just to Camaro. Once the "Recommendation" button is clicked, a picture of the 2010 Camaro will appear inviting you to link into the Camaro survey. The questions will include option descriptions and price ranges; but please note, these prices are being provided to determine demand, and do not necessarily reflect final Camaro pricing or packaging."

I took the survey three or four days ago after seeing the link on another site (same link). If you follow the instructions EXACTLY as the first post tells you, you will get to the Camaro survey, at least that's how it worked on my computer. Clyde

I find it hard to believe that there was no green of any shade included for the new Camaro. While I would love to have a new version of the first gen. Rallye Green (which I had on my '69 Z/28), I know many people don't seem to like that color, but I find it hard to accept they have no green available. Clyde