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Notice how it's all about the 6-spd, with the 4-spd's just ran over quickly? Even as awesome as the 4-spd is right now, this is NOT going to go over well with those in the "know". Similarly, I see no reason why ALL of the engines used couldn't make the jump to the 6-spd right from the get go, unless GM is pulling a "typical" and waiting until the second model year, '08, to already make a significant powertrain change.

That's VERY true, as being current-gen Suburban owners, there was no way we could even fathom buying a Tahoe because it has very little room--but is a great size overall that works for most people. On that same note, to anyone like us who has ever had to wrangle the HUGE back bench out of it's latches, drag it out the back, and then take 2 people to put it somewhere--there has to be a better solution. Hopefully the new longer models will have a better idea. Either way, the second row looks GREAT! Yet again knowing first hand how hard it can be to squeeze yourself through the tiny opening to the 3rd seat, I've wondered for years why they never had a fold n' tumble design. Now they not only have this, but it is optionally POWERED, which just adds a cool factor second to none.

Good points....so, as expected I guess, what's the reason for not doing the 6-spd across the board? Similarly, things like airbags, regardless of where they shoot from NEED to be STANDARD on every model and at every price point. I'm also disappointed with the 3rd seat. Keeping the solid rear axle, I understand being very limited as to what could be done with it, but why not something like the Durango--also a solid axle vehicle, but with a flat folding rear bench that is, actually, a LOT more comfortable than what is currently in the Tahoe/Yukon. On that same note, while the seats do look quite improved, seems like sitting in the very back will AGAIN be only for the smallest of kids/people who enjoy chewing on their knees. Other than that--AWESOME! Hate the atrocious gold paint and boring wheels on this one (gee, did I ever call that one!), but everything else, especially mechanically, is head and shoulders above the current trucks. Can't wait until trade-in time comes for our '04..... :chevy:

Just a little longer....

Yep, pretty much what he said--here's the full list from the ordering guide: Deletions Exterior color (12U) Sterling Silver Metallic Exterior color (15U) Cashmere Metallic Exterior color (88U) Steelmist Metallic New Features Exterior Color (46U) Slatestone Metallic Exterior Color (53U) Sandstone Metallic Exterior Color (67U) Platinum Metallic Changes (AY1) Air bags, side head curtain are now standard on all models (AK5) Air bags, frontal now require a fleet or government type order (PEB) Silver Convenience Package, is now (PDD) Comfort and Convenience Package (PEC) Gold Convenience Package is now (PCI) Driver Confidence Package (JL9) Brakes, 4-wheel antilock, 4-wheel disc and Traction control, Enhanced Traction System are Standard on CX and CXL

Hmm....not much info, but an early jump start.

What's the actual site that stuff will be posted to FIRST? I know it will find its way here as quickly as possible, but is it first going on media.gm.com or something else?

According to someone on GMI who contacted a GM media rep (along with others), the info. won't officially be published until 9am, because GM never does the "midnight thing" because no one is working at that time to put it up. So don't expect to see anything until at least 9, or a little bit thereafter, tomorrow morning. http://www.cheersandgears.com/public/style_emoticons//AH-HA_wink.gif

Well, seems like 9am tomorrow is THE time....keep your eyes out and your mouse clicking! http://www.cheersandgears.com/public/style_emoticons//AH-HA_wink.gif

Sorry some of the pics disappeared....they were off a dealer site, and the black/tan GTP's must have been the most eyecatching to people, because they just sold.

Wow. I've looked at many of these cars over the past couple of years and still never realized that it IS a plastic piece. Guess that kinda exemplifies how stupid it looks anyway...

Well, considering how much it resembles Saturn's new design theme, and this quote from Lutz in the October MT: -Lutz From the looks in that pic, I could see people saying "Holy mackere!" when they see the full thing in person and then find out that it's a Saturn, let alone the Ion....that's just my view http://www.cheersandgears.com/public/style_emoticons//AH-HA_wink.gif

Well, it kinda resembles the dimensions of the new Dodge Ram MegaCab, but you should note, they have taped an extra box on behind the cab to make it even larger--it really ends with the back door line.

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Wonder what we'll actually get....some quick, basic shots showing the inside/outside taken outside the factory, showing the inside/outside of the Tahoe, or the usual horrible GM "professional" shots with bad lighting, bad vehicle coloring, and bad angles? Either way, we've already seen nearly everything there is to see on the outside, so it will be the interior and the new features/options that will be of most interest.

ANY of them, because I WANT to see the interior!!! Similarly, I also want to know concrete info on specs, options, features, etc. So, right now, I'd say Tahoe, because it'll be the first http://www.cheersandgears.com/public/style_emoticons//AH-HA_wink.gif Yet I still agree on the Yukon points, because it will be interesting to see if they REALLY differentiated it from the Chevy or if it's like now, a different grille and wheels, but EVERYTHING else the same. The Escalade, regardless of how much improved it is, is kinda last on my list, because if the core essentials of the Tahoe are great, the Caddy can only get that much nicer.

How does it look "hella big"? Park a current Silverado next to this new one, and the size and overall profile would be virtually identical. Big and brash is not something GM tends to do, truck or not. For a good comparison, here's the new BIG Tundra:

That's true, but another fact about that which always furthered my view is that, in truth, the V6 model of that same Altima costs almost exactly the same as the G6, but has MASSIVELY better engine power and refinement. Comparing it to the base 4-cyl of a competitor, whether or not because you have a standard V6, is just stupid...

Good question...not to mention the fact that is also has a better interior layout and details than even the Lacrosse. Here's a good comparison to the domestic Regal: Even the door panels, especially, look MUCH better than the crap the domestic car got.

Agreed, and with the image Pontiac is trying for, whose idea was it to put plastic wood all over? Yeah, BMW does it, but their cars are both sport AND luxury. As is, it just looks like they were trying to use Buick/Caddy pieces in the car to save costs....and the same goes for the mirrors. The Equinox finally got painted ones for the second model year, and one would think the same would be true for the G6, but no....

Not necessarily. What was said outside the Janesville plant a few weeks ago was that they had built some, but they were locked away, and they "couldn't wait to show them to everybody in ABOUT a month". So, from that, I got that the first images will be out before the "official" show debut, which sometimes happens.

Yep:

This is a perfect example of how much the interior color can change the look of things too: the 2-tone light beige/black looks SO much better and classy than the all black, not to mention somehow looking higher quality, even though all the pieces are technically the same. Here's some other real-world GTP pics: And here's a Fusion Orange GT coupe: And a good rear shot of a Stealth Gray GT coupe:

Yeah, now that you mention it--what the hell is up with that ident/mark on the side? Ever since the '04s came out, I've been wondering 1) why is it up so high, 2) why is it so large, and 3) why is it just an indintation in the sheetmetal and not simply a smaller painted plastic piece?

Even though I can't stand the look of the sedan, I REALLY like these coupes more and more every time I see one. A base LS coupe with maybe just an auto as the only option is seeming like a VERY strong option when I go car shopping next summer http://www.cheersandgears.com/public/style_emoticons//AH-HA_wink.gif