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Posted 28 April 2012 - 06:07 AM

Yes NASCAR did make a change.

The way I saw it explained by NASCAR was it would be 2014 model but it would be available in early 2014. In other words the race car will hit the track in Feb at Daytona and the public will get the cars in Mach? The time span was not much different. It will be like the 2004 GP roll out in March of 2003.

As for name that is still a toss up as nothing solid has been given. A web site predicting the future can be changed easily.

It will have a SS tag along with another name and at this point no one outside GM seems to know if it is old or new. The only thing we do know is that Al called it the SS Peformance Sedan and that they had the name chosen at the least a year and a half ago when he spoke of it.

The name mystery is as deep here as the I Phone 6 release date mystery.
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Posted 28 April 2012 - 08:30 AM

CNG won't happen on this car simply because Holden's system is a dedicated CNG system rather than a dual fuel system.

We don't have the infrastructure for that just yet.

As for the rest of this, the car will be a sedan so my interest is limited.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 12:39 AM

When are they going to reveal this car? In March I read it was going to show up at the New York International Auto Show, but that didn't happen...
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 12:42 AM

When are they going to reveal this car? In March I read it was going to show up at the New York International Auto Show, but that didn't happen...


It should show up next year at the 2013 Daytona 500.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 12:47 AM


When are they going to reveal this car? In March I read it was going to show up at the New York International Auto Show, but that didn't happen...


It should show up next year at the 2013 Daytona 500.



I thought I read in that article somewhere that it would debut at the Auto Show. Maybe it was a different one I read or maybe I read it wrong.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 12:54 AM

Here is where I saw it at: http://www.jayski.com/teams/chevy.htm

Chevy to replace Impala in 2013 with another Chevy brand: Chevrolet is developing a new car with a new name for its 2013 NASCAR entry, replacing the Impala used by Team Chevy, and plans to eventually market and sell the new model to consumers. The dealership and racing versions of the car will be unveiled this year, after the New York auto show in April, spokesman Monte Doran said. The new car will use a nameplate not currently in Chevy’s lineup. Neither the car nor its name will be a derivative of an existing one, such as the new Malibu or the upcoming redesigned Impala, Doran said. General Motors wouldn’t reveal details. “We are keeping the wraps on the new car for now and will continue to prepare for next season by testing camouflaged vehicles,” Jim Campbell, vice president of Chevrolet performance vehicles and motorsports, said in a statement. “We know that Chevrolet fans are eager to see the new race car, and we hope that the prospect of being able to own one just like it will make the wait a little more bearable.”
The new car may be a version of the Chevy Caprice currently imported from Australia for U.S. police forces. Inside GM, a plan to develop a Chevy performance sedan like the Caprice for consumers was on-and-off in recent years because of concerns that it wasn’t a high-profit vehicle, people familiar with the situation said. Australia’s Holden brand currently offers consumers a variation on the U.S. Caprice. Along with developing the new performance sedan, GM is redesigning the current Impala, which will be built at the Detroit-Hamtramck plant and is expected to hit showrooms by spring 2013. The automaker is also rolling out a redesigned Malibu.(Detroit Free Press, more at MotorTrend and a past post at AutoWeek)(3-13-2013)





I did read it somewhat wrong though. It just says after the auto show, not at the auto show...
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 06:53 AM

I never thought I'd see Jummy johnson and Michael Stipe mentioned in the same sentence, even on C&G. Very clever, hyper! :)
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 10:10 AM

We will see the race car soon as they will begin testing it shortly. I assume the street car may show up at a show this year even before this years NY show.

This is one they will have a hard time hiding since the track testing will leave it out in the open. They still can hide the name but some of the body details will be shown even in primer.

Might note too I have noticed Jimmy johnson Lowes car has adopted the old Chevelle SS Stripe. Also he used a special GM Color at Kansas that was used ont he Chevelle and Camaro.

Note I corrected my early AM typo post for those who tend to be overtly immature.

Edited by hyperv6, 29 April 2012 - 10:12 AM.

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 11:32 PM

As for name that is still a toss up as nothing solid has been given. A web site predicting the future can be changed easily.

It will have a SS tag along with another name and at this point no one outside GM seems to know if it is old or new. The only thing we do know is that Al called it the SS Peformance Sedan and that they had the name chosen at the least a year and a half ago when he spoke of it.


True, a web site predicting the future can be changed, but a PRESS RELEASE by GM canNOT be changed. That press release stated a NEW name to the brand, which means that it canNOT be an old nameplate. Period. Ch#$r%*et wasn't smart enough to clarify.


And, it doesn't sound like a change, per se. The car will be a 2014 model, available in 2013. So, the nameplate raced WILL be a nameplate sold at the dealerships at the same time.



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Posted 02 May 2012 - 04:58 AM

New name can be taken different ways. Is it a new name never used before or is it a new name that is not being currently used. It could go either way. We only know for sure is it already has one per GM, it is just unknown to us.. To me it matters little what it is called as I have no hang up it has to be a old or new name mor the number off doors it has. I just want it built.

Note just some trivia. The Fiero name was originally the Peguses and was changed so late for some unknown reason today to Fiero so late was the change that the emblem kept the Flying Horse in it. GM fell back to a name Fiero that they claimed ment Proud in Itallian and chosen outr of a book in a late night meeting. But that did not explain the use of the name in 1a 968 show car the Firebird Fiero where it ment FIrebird Aero Concept. In other words the one name was rejected and they pulled out one they owned the rights to and semi applied a meaning to it.
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 09:19 AM

This is exciting as no one seems to have seen any new Name filing with the pattent office so I must assume the name will be new, but old. One they already have the rights to use but has not been in use for the last 10 years or longer.

Wonder if this car could be a new Beretta or GTO?

Looking at http://en.wikipedia...._General_Motors

I have to assume the name will be something from their history bin.

Anyone have a complete list of Auto Names for GM?

Forbes has a interesting story on Weirdest, worst and best names in the auto industry. Not sure I totally agree with them. http://www.forbes.co...l_0712feat.html
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 09:54 AM

Someone brought up Monte Carlo as a possible name, which makes sense given the NASCAR angle. I guess we just have to wait and see..
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:02 PM

Someone brought up Monte Carlo as a possible name, which makes sense given the NASCAR angle. I guess we just have to wait and see..


I could understand this if it was not for the fact that allot of people do not have the best memories of this car. With GM having owned so many other car companies, they are sitting on a ton of new / Old names. That is why I think they could pull something out of the Pontiac/Oldmobile/ older current names.

New/Old Auto Names

Chevy Torpedo
Chevy BelAir
Chevy Firebird
Chevy Skylark
Chevy Cutlass
Chevy Hellcat

I think the name used will be older than 10-15 years old from the history bins.
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:07 PM

The only one i san see out of those making any sense is Bel Air. Even GM isn't stupid enough to trip over its own history and give a Buick, Olds, or Pontiac name to a Chevy, especially the storied ones like you mentioned.

Given that the car is a cousin of the Caprice, Bel Air is appropriate from a historical perspective. Whether or not it belongs on a performance-themed sedan is up for debate, but I'd be for it.
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:14 PM

It is "new car" with a "name not currently" in the "North American" "Chevrolet brand"

lots of wiggle room there.

The only one i san see out of those making any sense is Bel Air. Even GM isn't stupid enough to trip over its own history and give a Buick, Olds, or Pontiac name to a Chevy, especially the storied ones like you mentioned.

Given that the car is a cousin of the Caprice, Bel Air is appropriate from a historical perspective. Whether or not it belongs on a performance-themed sedan is up for debate, but I'd be for it.


It also kinda goes with Malibu.
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:36 PM

It is "new car" with a "name not currently" in the "North American" "Chevrolet brand"

lots of wiggle room there.


The only one i san see out of those making any sense is Bel Air. Even GM isn't stupid enough to trip over its own history and give a Buick, Olds, or Pontiac name to a Chevy, especially the storied ones like you mentioned.

Given that the car is a cousin of the Caprice, Bel Air is appropriate from a historical perspective. Whether or not it belongs on a performance-themed sedan is up for debate, but I'd be for it.


It also kinda goes with Malibu.

Well, the Commodore was sold as the Lumina SS in the Middle East...but I can't see Lumina making an NA comeback. Chevelle, Laguna, or Caprice would be good choices, IMO. Past Chevy big car names like Bel Air, Delray, Biscayne seem too old-timey, along with Fleetline, Master, Master Deluxe, etc...

Edited by Cubical-aka-Moltar, 02 May 2012 - 01:41 PM.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 02:50 PM

This is where I'll point out that Commodore has not been in the US market.
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 03:12 PM

Commodore means little to most Americans. I would include it in the possibilities but I would rate it as a low chance of beig used.

I had considered Laguna but it was not real popular. I had considered Bel Air SS I like the sound and it would fit with the Caprice in a way as in the past Chevy used different names in the same lime like 210. Biscayne Bel Air etc.

Chevelle is close to the Malibu but the Chevelle name was never used on small FWD car.

Nova is too cheap of a name to use on a $40K car.

I hate to say it but Monte Carlos connection to NASCAR is strong and it has been a big name for Chevy for years. Adding two doors did not hurt the Challanger like many thought and adding two doors to a powerful great handling sports sedan should do well.

As much as I would love to see an older name not used in along time like Bel Air I thing it may get Monte Carlo in the end. Just a hunch.

You can forget Lumina, Cutlass, GTO or any other division name. GM looks like they are keeping a little retro in all their new cars. Most seem to use a old name or like the impala updated older emblems.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 02:58 PM

Anyone paying attention that a V6 may be on for 2015 and the wagon and ute car being considered on the Zeta II.

I know we have been throught this before but with Mark running the NA market and chapter 11 issue now behind they may have a chance. This may be why we are seeing Chevy push a limited edition sedan in NASCAR. It kind of make sense now.
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 11:28 PM

This is exciting as no one seems to have seen any new Name filing with the pattent office so I must assume the name will be new, but old. One they already have the rights to use but has not been in use for the last 10 years or longer.


Yes, I've thought about that, too.

*rolls eyes*


It is "new car" with a "name not currently" in the "North American" "Chevrolet brand"


Nice try, Drew. That "name not currently" phrase was in an article. That was NOT the Ch#$r%*et press release.

THIS is the press release wording:

The countdown to the debut of Chevrolet’s next NASCAR Sprint Cup Series racecar is underway. Chevrolet announced today that for the 2013 season, Team Chevy will be racing a vehicle based on a new nameplate to the brand’s lineup.

Taking advantage of the new NASCAR rules, which allow manufacturers to display more of their brand identity in their racecars, the new Chevrolet racecar will closely resemble the production version. Both cars will be unveiled in the coming year.


Since they used the phrase, "new nameplate to the brand's lineup", this implies a name never seen in the lineup before. Oh, I know the wiggle room. Trouble is, Ch#$r%*et, in its INFINITE wisdom, wasn't smart enough TO clarify. Their own fault. Period.


And, hyper, GM has proven before that it doesn't care whether or not an old name was used on FWD or not. Look at the Nova, Monte Carlo, Impala and Malibu. Besides, I thought this "SS" model was supposed to be RWD, anyway...? And ... adding 2 doors didn't hurt the Charger, not the Challenger.



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