As the Diesel Emits: Audi Is Forced To Recall 127,000 TDI Vehicles Over Software

Voluntary!, Come on Audi, you knew about the illegal software and you went Voluntary?

Guess if they wanted to truly force killing off Diesel they have achieved that since pretty much Diesel is dead in many markets and I bet Europe will see a change in that fuel also.

As more and more diesels are brought to the US...

GM has the Cruze, Equinox, Colorado/Canyon, Silverado and HDs While Ford has the F150, *rumored* Ranger, and SDs, FCA has the Wrangler, JGC, Ram 1500 and HDs. 

RIP Environment USA! 

Yea, not really seeing a need for Diesel auto's other than the Trucks or full size SUVs for hauling trailers.

The Equinox diesel is rated at 29/39mpg 2WD(28/38AWD). The trucks will hit real world 30mpg. How is that not beneficial? That's realistically 5mpg better for both of those. Factor in the "Real MPG" test MT does and the Equinox got FORTY SIX MILES PER GALLON on the highway. "33.1/46.7 mpg"

RIP fuel bill.

2 hours ago, ccap41 said:

The Equinox diesel is rated at 29/39mpg 2WD(28/38AWD). The trucks will hit real world 30mpg. How is that not beneficial? That's realistically 5mpg better for both of those. Factor in the "Real MPG" test MT does and the Equinox got FORTY SIX MILES PER GALLON on the highway. "33.1/46.7 mpg"

 

RIP fuel bill.

As I said in the trucks or SUVs /CUVs where you need to haul / pull a trailer these make sense, but in cars with the tech we have on Hybrid and petro, diesel is a no go I think. Yes I will adjust to include the smaller CUVs but even then I think the cost over all of the powertrain and fuel makes it a hard sale now as we move forward with Hybrids that can equal or beat Diesel.

There aren't hybrid CUVs that get 46mpg(or even 38 by the ratings and AWD) on the highway. 

I think they both have their place in the market and hybrids are superior in town and in stop and go traffic but if your commute is 35 miles of interstate the diesel will outperform it. 

Niro is the closest and if I'm not wrong it is considerably smaller than an Equinox or Rav4, the latter which is available with a hybrid rated at 34city/30highway. 

OUCH, Seems Audi found 60,000 more TDI's that need to be recalled. 900,000 TDI's now on the recall list! ?

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/05/08/audi-diesel-emissions-scandal-recall/

Seems to be getting uglier, Mercedes-benz has One Million Diesel auto's of Euro Spec 6 the latest Diesel emission regulation that have cheating software on them and now it seems Audi's leadership is clearly being investigated for Deceptive marketing and selling of Cheat enabled Diesel auto's.

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/06/11/audi-ceo-suspect-german-diesel-emissions/

This is going to truly kill off Personal Diesel auto's I think. I honestly do not see Diesel surviving except in Trucks / SUVs that are used to haul trailers. The cost has been negated by superior petro engines.

It's not the cars, it's the unrealistic standards.  The standards need rewritten to reflect reality and prevent economic difficulty.

4 hours ago, ocnblu said:

It's not the cars, it's the unrealistic standards.  The standards need rewritten to reflect reality and prevent economic difficulty.

Disagree, GM and Ford can have their diesel motors work to the Spec of clean exhaust. Germany needs to step up, spend the money and stop using cheat software. Cleaner air for all with less medical issues.