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    Ford News - Best Selling Automaker in Q4 of 2021 Plus So Much More!

      Ford released some exciting news that shows just how serious they are about all areas of the auto industry. Check out the success FORD had for 2021!

    FORD Motor Company was hitting on all cylinders and battery packs as they ended 2021 on a high note. 

    • Best-Selling Automaker in Q4 2021
    • #2 in electric vehicle sales for 2021
    • F-Series Best-Selling Truck for 45th year in a Row and Best-Selling Vehicle for 40th year straight
    • SUVs grew market share from 7.3% in 2020 to 12.3% in 2021

    BEV sales grew 121.1% for total sales and 137.8% in retail sales for 2021 over 2020.

    Due to becoming #2 in BEV sales, FORD has again RAMPED UP production and will now product 150,000 F150 Lightning pickups in 2021 and over 200,000 for 2023 with expected global production of 600,000 by 2024 annually.

    Full manufacturing images of the production line of the F150 Lighting can be viewed here: Full Speed Ahead: Ford Planning to Nearly Double All-Electric F-150 Lightning Production to 150,000 Units Annually; First Wave of Reservation Holders Invited to Order

    Ford released today two new videos of the F150 Lighting and the pre-production assembly line.

     

    Ford Best-Selling Automaker in Q4; Becomes No. 2 for Electric Vehicle Sales for 2021; F-Series Best-Selling Truck for 45th Year In Row and Best-Selling Vehicle for 40th straight year; SUV Share Expands | Ford Media Center

    Full Speed Ahead: Ford Planning to Nearly Double All-Electric F-150 Lightning Production to 150,000 Units Annually; First Wave of Reservation Holders Invited to Order | Ford Media Center

    December 2021 Press Release (ford.com)

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    Remember the old addage... DON'T put all your eggs in one basket !

    Detroit all mfgrs seem to be doing that going all EV-- but the alleged exotic long-life batteries are still not available and what will they cost?

    Travel distances seem to be being ignored--- and the promise of recharge 

    stations is still a long way off!

    It seems they want to put the horse out to pasture, but the electric buggy is not a workable substitute yet!

     

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    25 minutes ago, rkmdogs said:

    Remember the old addage... DON'T put all your eggs in one basket !

    Detroit all mfgrs seem to be doing that going all EV-- but the alleged exotic long-life batteries are still not available and what will they cost?

    Travel distances seem to be being ignored--- and the promise of recharge 

    stations is still a long way off!

    It seems they want to put the horse out to pasture, but the electric buggy is not a workable substitute yet!

     

    Welcome back, been a while since 2016 since you posted. Great to have you back.

    Yes, many places and I do understand that Florida is very much against EVs by the local governments, but in many other states especially the west coast, charging is very common and easy to get too. States that are embracing the change for cleaner air is also embracing the needed change to how things are taxed, charged, etc. As such, EVs are well embraced in some place and less so in others.

    I think since all OEMs have stated to stop production of ICE autos from 2030 to 2035 that this is more than enough time to continue to build up the infrastructure that supports rapid charging and get people comfortable with EVs.

    Many versions of Solid-State batteries are already going into production to replace the current Lithium batteries by 2025. Even GM has stated that they will have Generation 2 of the Ultium Battery pack out by 2025. As with Computer Technology, Electric auto's which were ahead of their time in the early 1900's are now able to come into existence with excellent updates and faster change due to our advances in education / technology that allows us to move forward to better ways of transportation. IMHO

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    You talk about West coast needs --- that is not the middle of the USA where travel distances are great!

    You did not address the query about the 100 vehicle pile-up on I95. What if this had been EVs ? People would have died!

    Nobody addresses the distance issue except to say --- it will work out.......

    HOW, and at what cost ! Hybrids may be a partial answer..

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    2 hours ago, rkmdogs said:

    You talk about West coast needs --- that is not the middle of the USA where travel distances are great!

    You did not address the query about the 100 vehicle pile-up on I95. What if this had been EVs ? People would have died!

    Nobody addresses the distance issue except to say --- it will work out.......

    HOW, and at what cost ! Hybrids may be a partial answer..

    How would if they were all EVs people would have died in I95? Battery tech is very safe compared to explosive ICE.

    Range is not an issue as there have been way too many drives across the US showing that EVs can-do cross-country trips just fine and since you have not been here in years, I have posted modern updated maps showing the infrastructure that abounds across the US. Many people have no problems with taking an EV on a trip now.

    Hybrids is Toyota and few others; all other OEMs are focusing on Solids State battery packs and EVs with 300 miles on average and bigger packs for full size trucks/SUVs. This is not as big of a problem as some folks like to blow it up.

    I understand, Change is hard for some to accept, but Change is going to happen, and I would rather embrace the change, learn about it and know what I want to have to allow me to continue my lifestyle choice. Active outside living.

    Alternative Fuels Data Center: Electric Vehicle Charging Station Locations (energy.gov)

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    17 hours ago, rkmdogs said:

    You talk about West coast needs --- that is not the middle of the USA where travel distances are great!

    You did not address the query about the 100 vehicle pile-up on I95. What if this had been EVs ? People would have died!

    Nobody addresses the distance issue except to say --- it will work out.......

    HOW, and at what cost ! Hybrids may be a partial answer..

    I find it funny that you wanna find fault and lay blame on a technology. 

    But this sort of thing has happened before.  Not just in Virginia.  In Montreal just 4 years ago.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/3310806/highway-13-gridlocked-between-highway-20-and-highway-40-stranding-drivers/

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/drivers-stranded-on-highway-13-during-2017-snowstorm-to-finally-receive-their-compensation-1.5800349

    But why is it that in backwards, French Frog Quebec, our peoples didnt lay blame and suppose an imaginary EV problem, but tried to see what went wrong?

    https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/political-firestorm-after-drivers-stranded-overnight-on-highway-13-1.3325577

     

    Shytty, biased journalism that offer shytty biased opinions and you have fallen for it...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/01/04/imagine-virginias-icy-traffic-catastrophe-with-only-electric-vehicles/

    To which other journalists respond to and when that happens, the story at hand gets muddied with useless information...

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jan/07/facebook-posts/theres-no-evidence-electric-vehicles-fare-worse-ga/

    If you were a big boy using your brain, you wouldnt seek out such stupid, useless writing to feed your obvious anti-EV stance.   

    With me risking getting a  warning for making this personal, Im gonna tell you to get a life!

    William Shatner quote: Oh, for God's sake... get a life, will you?

     

     

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    I assume the I-95 issue can be blamed on inadequate road clearing equipment?  Underfunded/understaffed road department?  Winter does happen every year, states need to prepare by having adequate salt trucks, salt/deicing product supplies, snow plows, drivers.. 

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    4 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

    I assume the I-95 issue can be blamed on inadequate road clearing equipment?  Underfunded/understaffed road department?  Winter does happen every year, states need to prepare by having adequate salt trucks, salt/deicing product supplies, snow plows, drivers.. 

    I dont remember Montreal's issues, but yeah, it was ALL that that you mentioned!    Montreal's case was first caused by an 18 wheeler jack-knifed and blocking all lanes. Then it snowballed from there.  From a tow truck driver that could have signaled a problem while he drove by the opposite way but did nothing, to a police chief that was on vacation or leaving for vacation or something like that, to Montreal's snow storm watch that handles road clearing not having the equipment out and about to clear the snow as it fell...

    It was a mess from all sides and the Government of Quebec was sued and it had to compensate the drivers that were stuck.  

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    1 minute ago, oldshurst442 said:

    I dont remember Montreal's issues, but yeah, it was ALL that that you mentioned!    Montreal's case was first caused by an 18 wheeler jack-knifed and blocking all lanes. Then it snowballed from there.  From a tow truck driver that could have signaled a problem while he drove by the opposite way but did nothing, to a police chief that was on vacation or leaving for vacation or something like that, to Montreal's snow storm watch that handles road clearing not having the equipment out and about to clear the snow as it fell...

    It was a mess from all sides and the Government of Quebec was sued and it had to compensate the drivers that were stuck.  

    I know some states also in the South don't have adequate snow clearing/deicing etc equipment because such weather events are uncommon....like what happens at least once a year in Atlanta when they get a snowstorm or ice storm.

    I can't imaging being stuck that many hours on a freeway during a storm...a whole lot of not good.   Closest I've come personally was back in 2005 when I was in Portland, Or visiting friends and it took me over 7 hours to go 25 miles when I got caught in an ice storm...sheer terror and very slow driving for hours. 

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    Ive never been in a situation like that.  On a freeway in the middle of nowhere where you cant just abandon your car and walk to shelter to a McDonald's or something, yeah, its scary.  

    The Montreal thing, it was in the city so it was scary, but less so as one could walk a few feet and go to a restaurant to eat or stay warm or even walk a mile or two or less and a Motel would pop up...

    I read the Montreal article again...

    https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/political-firestorm-after-drivers-stranded-overnight-on-highway-13-1.3325577

     

    Drivers were unable to advance and some had to abandon their vehicles and leave the highway on foot.

    Many others waited in their car for as many as 12 hours -- some ran out of gas, others didn’t have any food.

    Many helped each other out by rationing their fuel.

    “We're just sitting around with the other truck drivers in their trucks staying warm because our trucks were running out of gas at the same time,” said one truck driver.

    Dominic Arsenault gave up in the middle of the night, hours after he ran out of gas.

    "I walked back to the 40 and I was hitchhiking. Somebody picked me up and dropped me at home so I was really lucky," said Arsenault.

    Once firefighters were called, they checked on every vehicle.

    “They went from car to car to make sure that people were okay in their cars,” said Ian Ritchie of the Montreal fire department. “We also dispatched one of our buses that is heated, that has a toilet.”

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    On 1/7/2022 at 3:24 PM, rkmdogs said:

    You did not address the query about the 100 vehicle pile-up on I95. What if this had been EVs ? People would have died!

    You never asked about until you made the above post. How can he query about something for which was not aware?

     

    Furthermore, the last part is pure bunk. As Robert already pointed out, I’m pretty there were EVs on that interstate yet no one died. To insinuate that it would have been that way to begin with is pure sensationalism. 

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    2 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

    Furthermore, the last part is pure bunk. As Robert already pointed out, I’m pretty there were EVs on that interstate yet no one died. To insinuate that it would have been that way to begin with is pure sensationalism. 

    Indeed. If anything, it could be slightly more beneficial to be in a newer long-range EV (equipped with a heat pump) in such a situation. I've seen reports of Model 3s going over 70 hours on battery running HVAC in winter temps (approx. 24° F). Obviously, more extreme temperatures are likely to reduce that.

    Doing an admittedly quick google search, idling a gas engine is estimated to burn half a gallon of gas per hour. Assuming this is correct, a typical vehicle with, say, a 16 gallon tank could burn through that in as little as 32 hours. Let's say it's closer to a quarter of a gallon, so possibly 64 hours with the same tank size. Larger tank sizes would increase this, but are generally found on less efficient vehicles.

    Overall, it's probably a wash.

    1 hour ago, balthazar said:

    That map David posted is hilarious : a 2,800-mile wide country is represented at 3" wide, and the charging stations are represented at 1/8" wide. 

    Outside of Tesla, this is definitely the biggest hurdle to EV ownership. Rural areas currently don't have the infrastructure to support widespread adoption. Just hopping around on the Plugshare app, the Midwest/great plains area is pretty sparse for non-Tesla charging stations. With demand, this will change, but I can see why someone in a state such as South Dakota or Montana wouldn't take the plunge.

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    On 1/9/2022 at 10:22 PM, Cory Wolfe said:

    Indeed. If anything, it could be slightly more beneficial to be in a newer long-range EV (equipped with a heat pump) in such a situation. I've seen reports of Model 3s going over 70 hours on battery running HVAC in winter temps (approx. 24° F). Obviously, more extreme temperatures are likely to reduce that.

    Doing an admittedly quick google search, idling a gas engine is estimated to burn half a gallon of gas per hour. Assuming this is correct, a typical vehicle with, say, a 16 gallon tank could burn through that in as little as 32 hours. Let's say it's closer to a quarter of a gallon, so possibly 64 hours with the same tank size. Larger tank sizes would increase this, but are generally found on less efficient vehicles.

    Overall, it's probably a wash.

    Outside of Tesla, this is definitely the biggest hurdle to EV ownership. Rural areas currently don't have the infrastructure to support widespread adoption. Just hopping around on the Plugshare app, the Midwest/great plains area is pretty sparse for non-Tesla charging stations. With demand, this will change, but I can see why someone in a state such as South Dakota or Montana wouldn't take the plunge.

    Give it time, good to see you back.

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