Genesis Planning Plug-In Hybrids

Yeah I think the key there is that those are all level 2. These aren’t fast chargers you use on a road trip, and that’s okay. 

Yes, we have had it for a year now and we got a new Grand Son, so my wife drives it daily to their house since she watches Kai for half the day. Here is where Washington State pointed back to for average and in this stated site, Seattle / Tacoma average price per L2 charger is 21 cents and Bellingham is 25 cents. I had asked Bing and Google the same question on average price per kW for charging in Washington state and both came back with 25 cents average. Here is the site our state government pointed me at from last year. EV Stats and EV Charging Stations in Washington State | Qmerit QUOTE:  How Much Do Public EV Charging Stations in Washington State Cost? With hundreds of free EV charging stations in Washington State offered through municipal programs, public charging can be very affordable. However, a majority of public stations use a per kWh billing model. For instance, Seattle and Tacoma offer Level 2 curbside charging for $0.21 per kWh, while the city of Bellingham charges $0.25 per kWh with additional fees for occupying the spot after charging. FYI - My work has a deal with ChargePoint, if you work in the building, you can charge using the L2 for 15 cents per kW, public is currently 24 cents per kW.

His view is probably based on the places he goes, not an unreasonable way to view it.  For me, I'd look around the offices I visit, the Costco I go to, the YMCA I use, etc.  Because we got into this discussion, it made me look into it from a practical perspective on how it would fit into my life if I didn't bother to put a plug in at home, and yeah, I could still do it for cheap.

Yes, I know all of this. The statement was the whole area's average rate, which you and I both know is not accurate. His personal rate is similar to mine. I'm at 11c-12c per kW. 

He's got lower electric rates than I do and I see a lot of 25c/kW around me.   But also, look at the speeds. The higher the speed, the higher the price. The 60c/kW chargers near me are for the 350kw units. You only use them for 20-25 minutes max, and that's if you are totally empty and going to 80%. They're more suited for highway rest stops than grocery parking lots. Though there is one in the local Target that is an insane 66c for 100kw charging, but that Target is a madhouse anyway, so they're probably justified in keeping the prices high. There a certain demographic that uses that Target that doesn't care about money. The 25c/kW / L2 places are for places you'll spend an hour more at. A parking garage for the doctors office, the gym, the grocery store, at the office working. Going to an event next week to try out vehicles. Ford - Maverick Lobo, Bronco Raptor, Explorer Lincoln - Navigator  Acura - ADX, ZDZX, Integra Honda - Prologue EV, Civic Hatch and CR-V Sport Touring hybrids Lucid - Gravity SUV and Air Genesis - 2026 GV70 Polaris - Slingshot Volvo - XC90, EX90 Toyota/Lexus - as many as five vehicles  BMW/MINI - five or more vehicles Hyundai – Ioniq 5 N, Santa Fe HEV Kia Alfa Romeo – Tonale BMW MINI Anything that lights your fire?