Jump to content
Create New...
  • 💬 Join the Conversation

    CnG Logo SQ 2023 RedBlue FavIcon300w.png
    Since 2001, Cheers & Gears has been the go-to hub for automotive enthusiasts. Join today to access our vibrant forums, upload your vehicle to the Garage, and connect with fellow gearheads around the world.

     

  • William Maley
    William Maley

    Honda's Upcoming Clarity EV Falls Short In Terms Of Range

      Cue Sad Trombone

    Honda will soon be entering the electric car arena with the introduction of the Clarity EV this spring. But as Automotive News has learned, the Clarity EV will have a big disadvantage right out of the gate.

    The Clarity EV will only offer a range of 80 miles on a single charge. This puts it well behind nearly all of the electric vehicles on sale.

    • 2017 Nissan Leaf: 107 mile range
    • 2017 Ford Focus Electric: 115 mile range
    • 2017 Hyundai Ioniq Electric: 124 mile range
    • 2017 Volkswagen e-Golf - 125 mile range
    • 2017 Chevrolet Bolt - 238 mile range

    Why the limited range? Honda explained to Automotive News the decision came down two parameters that were non-negotiable: the size of the Clarity's platform - underpins a fuel cell and upcoming plug-in hybrid - and keeping the starting price around $35,000. With these two points, Honda's engineers were hamstrung from putting in a larger battery. Still, Honda is trying to put a positive spin on this, saying they believe they have found a sweet spot in the EV marketplace.

    "A pillar of the Honda brand is affordability, and if Honda came out with some obscenely priced long-range electric car, what does that do for the brand? Most of our customers would not be able to acquire it," Steve Center, vice president of environmental business development at American Honda Motor.

    "These people want a battery car and they know what they do and where they go. They're very rational and they don't need to lug around or charge up a 300-mile-range battery because that costs them electricity."

    But how many of those people are out there? Studies within the past year or so have shown that while most people would be able to get away with an electric vehicle providing a range of under 100 miles, the fear of range anxiety rears its ugly head.  

    Source: Automotive News (Subscription Required)

    User Feedback

    Recommended Comments

    Honda, FYI Pull your head out of the Glue Gun and stop sniffing some stupid Marketing spin. YOUR FULL OF BS!

    People will not bother buying your EV as 80 miles is pathetic in todays age and you failed to pay attention to the market and what the competition was doing. Only badge snobby idiots will pay $35,000 for your EV when they can get a far superior EV at Chevy for less.

    Saying this is needed for their fuel cell is a joke, Fuel Cells are more expensive and it takes more energy to fuel a fuel cell auto than a pure EV. Honda is on the wrong end of this one as I question GM on it also as I think we will not see the market move to hydrogen powered auto's.

    Rock on BOLT! Rock On! :metal: 

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Well Mercedes will have 72 EV cars over 80 miles by 2075. Just had to get that out before someone else had to post it,

    I think this is telling of Honda and how far behind they are on the EV program. They had invest much into Fuel Cell but the infrastructure is just not there to support it. I think that is why they joined GM to help get more filling stations in place that both brands could use.

    I have driven the Fuel Cell GM CUV and I can say it is not a joke. Infrastructure is a mess for Electric and even more so for the Fuel Cell. Until there is more demand of either and agreed systems no one wants to invest into these refueling as if they miss the chosen system they could stand to loose their investment in the private sector.

    This is the old Chicken and the Egg deal one can not exist without the other but getting enough of one before the other will incur some risk if you chose wrong. 

    The SAE needs to standardize the plugs on the EV cars now before we get a real mess out there. Imagine if everyone used a different size non standard nuts and bolts on our cars?

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    J1772 is the SAE standard for Level 1 & 2 charging. It is the Rapid Fast Charging that is undergoing review and the SAE is planning on setting a standard for this summer 2017, I then expect to see a J1772-2017 updated SAE standard.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    What a joke.  If Honda was so focused on value they wouldn't price this thing like a 3-series.  An EV with an 80 mile range should be like $22,000, that would be value for the customer.  

    These people with their 100 mile over priced, no power electrics are fools.  You have to build more power than gas for equal money to get people to buy it.

    • Agree 1
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    3 hours ago, dfelt said:

    J1772 is the SAE standard for Level 1 & 2 charging. It is the Rapid Fast Charging that is undergoing review and the SAE is planning on setting a standard for this summer 2017, I then expect to see a J1772-2017 updated SAE standard.

    That is the problem the standard is evolving yet at a time it needs to really zone in on one size fits all. 

    There is already too many different ones out there and companies lobbying for their version. 

     

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites



    Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
    Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

    Guest
    Add a comment...

    ×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

      Only 75 emoji are allowed.

    ×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

    ×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

    ×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.




  • Support Real Automotive Journalism

    Cheers and Gears Logo

    Since 2001, Cheers & Gears has delivered real content and honest opinions — not emotionless AI output or manufacturer-filtered fluff.

    If you value independent voices and authentic reviews, consider subscribing. Plans start at just $2.25/month, and paid members enjoy an ad-light experience.*

    You can view subscription options here.

    *a very limited number of ads contain special coupon deals for our members and will show

  • Similar Content

  • Posts

    • Every American needs to get ready as this is our future under Idiot47 and his love of Tariffs. Vintage photos show American life under Trump's tariff hero, William McKinley   Idiot47 is going to bankrupt this country the way he has already done it 7 times since he is so stupid. Trump vows 'big retaliation' as 'sell America' list grows This is sad as GM will not recover like they think they will nor will Ford. American Auto Industry is set to expire. GM to end Chevy Bolt EV production next year, move China-made Buick to US factory Anyone who doubts the U.S. is about to crash does not understand how the Russian Agent Idiot47 has increased debt to give the 1% class everything before this country implodes. ‘Some form of crisis is almost inevitable’: The $38 trillion national debt will soon be growing faster than the US economy itself, watchdog warns  
    • This was more of the response I was looking for. Yes. And thank-you.  If I came out as defensive and aggressive, it was because I was, but not targeted at you...personally at you.  At you because of what country you live in but not at you personally as I have come to know you quite well as much as we could behind a computer screen.  And yes, I never ever questioned you. I know you are a well educated individual.  I could tell from the literal thousands of posts we have made to each other over the years.   I like you. I respect you.  Im sorry that I made you feel the need to justify yourself.  But I, and I COULD speak for plenty of Canadians on my behalf, that we, not just I, are pretty phoquing mad at some of your countrymen and for your leaders for what is going on.     The way I figure it, and this is where I speak only for myself, is IF americans want to phoque up their lives, the lives of their fellow countrymen, their country and everything the usa stood for, then phoque that up all by yourselves, there is NO PHOQUING NEED to drag me and ALL CANADIANS into your garbage.  More than that, LEAVE OTHER nations alone as well.   The way I figure it, take care of your (not personal, but a universal meaning for all americans) shyte because I, Canadians, do NOT feel the need to have to take care of YOUR shyte for YOU (not personal, but a universal meaning for all americans).  We Canadians do not necessarily want to go to war for YOU JUST to defend freedoms and liberties.  WE WILL go to war to defend CANADIAN freedoms and liberties and especially our sovereignty, make no mistake about that, but why drag Canadians into YOUR problems?   Nobody thought that. But there were plenty of small hints though, in 2016.  An huge bombshell of a hint on January 6, 2020.  All of 2025 though, was just a matter of time before those hints actually came to fruition and became reality.  2026 is the year where probably  all actions of authoritarianism will be put into motion. The year did start  (January 3rd to be exact) with a literal bang... americans, the ones that are actually aware of what is going on and are against all of it are too passive.   I understand the fact that these people want to settle this without violence.  Some of these people think that elections will settle this. There is NO RULE OF LAW that is followed in an authoritarian take-over where democracy is being phased out.  There is NO RULE OF LAW in the usa as we speak. The courts and/or elcetions have done shyte so far and the courts and /or elections will do shyte going forward.   Violence is the ONLY way for freedoms and liberties to be restored at this juncture.  Some americans absolutely want NO violence and war to happen... but  violence and war  is DESTINED to come to them whether they want it to happen or not.  If there are no violent riots to lead to a civil war to break free form this shyte, violence will happen regardless because OPPRESSORS want to OPPRESS and will OPPRESS anybody OPPRESSORS want to OPPRESS.  That could mean ANY person living in the usa.  Being white is not a free pass.  Because white will have other less favourable attributes to these oppressors.  Whether americans will resist or not, oppressors will enact violence upon thee. Also, with talks about invasions, or even former america's allies that the usa decided to shyte on the past 13 months, tensions have arose, and the usa is the aggressor, anyway, aggressors, in THIS case IS the united states of america, will be forced to attack other countries and this means the usa will need soldiers.  In other words, even if some americans do NOT want war, YOUR leader WANTS war and so WAR will be handed to you whether you like it or not... 
    • I still like these "older" cars: I didn't like these when they first came out.  The first time I saw one I was driving a rented 2013 or 14 previous fleet Impala westbound on I-10 on the Florida panhandle and one of these new ones was crossing me eastbound on I-10.  I wasn't convinced.  The front fascia looked too tame and the back was a little chunky. Of the latest Malibus, I like the Camaro-esque taillamp treatment on this one.  Not long ago, one drove past me and it must have really been taken care of because the exhaust note was damn near perfect.  That would have been coming from a 2.5 liter Ecotec 4 cylinder.
    • @G. David Felt This was quite a surprise.  I was going to sit down and do this paring down to get more space.  I periodically would click on "This PC" to see how much space was available ... not much.  Last night and this morning, I checked and I had gotten back slightly over 40 GB! I looked at it more than once to see if it was real. I wonder if it was a timed process within the system.  I guess I'm doing ok now.
  • Who's Online (See full list)

    • There are no registered users currently online
  • My Clubs

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.

Hey there, we noticed you're using an ad-blocker. We're a small site that is supported by ads or subscriptions. We rely on these to pay for server costs and vehicle reviews.  Please consider whitelisting us in your ad-blocker, or if you really like what you see, you can pick up one of our subscriptions for just $1.75 a month or $15 a year. It may not seem like a lot, but it goes a long way to help support real, honest content, that isn't generated by an AI bot.

See you out there.

Drew
Editor-in-Chief

Write what you are looking for and press enter or click the search icon to begin your search