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Seems Hyundai has an amazing Van but it will not be coming to the US. Diesel or V6 gas are the engine options.

Hyundai Staria specs revealed, but the stunning van isn't coming here | Autoblog

Quote: Hyundai promises two engine options for global markets. Europe will enjoy a 2.2-liter turbo-diesel engine that produces 175 horsepower and 318 pound-feet of torque. They’ll also have the choice of a six-speed manual or eight-speed automatic transmission, making us all the more jealous. Other markets will have the option of a 3.5-liter V6 instead of the diesel. This engine makes 268 horsepower and 244 pound-feet of torque.

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I will say that the dash reminds me of what we are seeing in EVs today.

Looks nice in executive trim.

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2021 GMC Sierra Elevation crew cab / 6.5' bed. 3.0L DuraMax / 10-spd.   It's only money.

This whole crossover craze has gone a bit too far....

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Fords agreement with VW will have Ford for their European operations in Cologne Germany using the VW MEB EV platform. Fords first auto will be an undefined utility EV equal in size to the VW ID.4

Ford's VW-based EV will be a utility vehicle, report says (autonews.com)

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5 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

May be an image of 3 people and text that says 'MODERNA PFIZER JOHNSON & JOHNSON'

Should be posted in the Vaccine thread. :P 

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Seems Europe after digging into the data of PHEV auto's is finding out they are not green at all and as such, have already started to draft legislation that will have PHEV auto's dead by 2030. Currently for Auto Companies plans by 2028 they show 28 PHEV's and 86 BEV's for 2028 on the market. With EU regulation considering banning PHEV starting in 2030, this would make one wonder if PHEV will not get killed of sooner as this regulation would tend to kill market demand to buy something that has such a short life span.

PHEV cars, once considered green, lose their appeal to EU regulators | Autoblog

With the above regulation, it makes me wonder if this could be the last update to the BMW X5 xDrive45e PHEV which has been getting solid reviews.

2021 BMW X5 xDrive45e PHEV First Drive Review | Better Bimmer with a bigger battery | Autoblog

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France has joined a growing list of European countries that are pretty much paying for you to move to an electric bike especially if you live in the city. Trade in your gas auto to be crushed and France will give you $2,991 US or $2,500 Euro's to buy your new electric bike. In many cases top of the line Electric bikes like those built by Peugeot cost $2,500 making it a no cost option to change over to an electric bike form your to quote the French Government, inefficient gas auto, reducing the need for insurance, gas, maintenance, etc. With France having free chargers all over their cities, this will help to clean up the air, reduce noise pollution and increase the healthy life style of the citizens by having them use an electric bike.

As stated in the story, many families that have two auto's might still need one for long distance road trips and with e-bikes being cheaper if it is an import from outside France could make it a 2 e-bike family with a single auto for long distance road trips still making it a great deal.

Another major EU country to offer $3,000 e-bike credit to trade in your old gas car (electrek.co) 

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1) My take on how I roll with salespeople (and how I think others should roll):

If the item or service can wait, and you push me, I won't be buying from you.  If you do not push me, but seek to inform me, I will be buying from you. *

* as for the $ 1,400 stimulus payment, I went out and bought a 3 over 3 (cushions, that is) sleeper sofa to put in the room where the desktop computer / printer are. (I'm also giving a token amount to humanitarian causes ... i.e. disaster relief.)  The salesman was polite, patient, and mild mannered, so I filed his business card away that he gave me when I had gone in prior to the pandemic.  When I went back in after a year of pandemic, the price quote had only gone up about $15.  Done deal.  I will post a photo when the ordered sleeper sofa arrives.

2) Advice given to me by a professional on handling administrative matters:

If you get an e-mail, text, or other communication that gets you riled up, do NOT answer it that day.  Sleep on it and address it the next day.

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5 hours ago, David said:

this would make one wonder if PHEV will not get killed of sooner as this regulation would tend to kill market demand to buy something that has such a short life span.

Proposed future legislation has zero effect on the life span of said vehicle.

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19 hours ago, David said:

from Hyundai on their legendary Pony car.

What The Fuck Did You Just Say To Me GIFs | Tenor

 

You called it legendary, yet you find most Ferraris 'meh'

Hello Mcfly GIFs | Tenor

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1 hour ago, oldshurst442 said:

What The Fuck Did You Just Say To Me GIFs | Tenor

 

You called it legendary, yet you find most Ferraris 'meh'

Hello Mcfly GIFs | Tenor

Just quoted the linked info which calls the Hyundai that. 😆

Yes, Ferraris are Meh to me! Could die like Alfa did and would not be a big deal. Sadly, they brought Alfa back and still is a Meh, no big deal auto.

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2 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

Madoff

ponzi scheme

I knew about him and what he did when it was hot off the press.  But today, I read a little blurb about him.  I was disgusted to learn that he looked down his nose at prospective very wealthy clients who wanted to invest somewhat more moderate sums with him and that, unless they invested more, he would not take them on as clients.  Those were the conditions he put forth.

Madoff is an appropriate surname for this dude:  he MADE OFF, all right.

Good riddance.

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25 minutes ago, trinacriabob said:

he would not take them on as clients.

Lucky folk, though.  It was a blessing for them if not for his other victims.

I found it more appalling when back in the day, news media, journalists, analysts, bankers, politicians, etc...revered this thief and swore by him.

 

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3 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

Lucky folk, though.  It was a blessing for them if not for his other victims.

I found it more appalling when back in the day, news media, journalists, analysts, bankers, politicians, etc...revered this thief and swore by him.

Many wolves in sheep's clothing in the world.  Many.  

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5 minutes ago, trinacriabob said:

Many wolves in sheep's clothing in the world.  Many.  

True. But we (our modern society) seem to WANT to be seduced by these wolves in sheep's clothing.  Our morals and scruples  seem to have been loosened over the years. And when we do that, we beget more and more wolves in sheep's clothing until the wolves our brazen enough to not even disguise themselves as sheep.  Look at the last President...   

Money...the root of all evil.  

 

 

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38 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

But we (our modern society) seem to WANT to be seduced by these wolves in sheep's clothing. 

Exactly.  And what's even more perplexing is how some of the most self-righteous people who play the "holier than thou" card, and should know better, are either swayed by it, choose to look the other way, or are wolves themselves.

Without getting into politics, I have no clue how people could stand to watch more than 3 minutes of "The Apprentice," where any douche bag with pearly whites can show up to be a "project manager."  It didn't look like many of those contestants were schooled in engineering, construction, finance, IT, and the hard sciences that would even allow them to put parameters around a project.  That's because most of the folks who ate that sh!+ up ("The Apprentice") wouldn't even think of asking something like that. 

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20 hours ago, David said:

Seems Europe after digging into the data of PHEV auto's is finding out they are not green at all and as such, have already started to draft legislation that will have PHEV auto's dead by 2030. Currently for Auto Companies plans by 2028 they show 28 PHEV's and 86 BEV's for 2028 on the market. With EU regulation considering banning PHEV starting in 2030, this would make one wonder if PHEV will not get killed of sooner as this regulation would tend to kill market demand to buy something that has such a short life span.

PHEV cars, once considered green, lose their appeal to EU regulators | Autoblog

With the above regulation, it makes me wonder if this could be the last update to the BMW X5 xDrive45e PHEV which has been getting solid reviews.

2021 BMW X5 xDrive45e PHEV First Drive Review | Better Bimmer with a bigger battery | Autoblog

https://www.torquenews.com/1083/toyota-rav4-prime-2nd-fastest-selling-vehicle-america

Toyota RAV4 Prime Is 2nd-Fastest-Selling Vehicle In America.

A new study ranking the fastest-selling vehicles in America puts the RAV4 Prime second only to the Chevrolet Corvette.

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Seems at least for now, people prefer the flexibility of PHEV over pure EV.  (Also number one is a kick ass ICE vehicle ;) )

 

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11 hours ago, balthazar said:

Happiness is... a brand new (fine) wire wheel disc and grinding stone on your bench grinder.

I have multiple bench grinders. They are one of the most used tools in a shop full of well loved tools. 

21 minutes ago, ykX said:

https://www.torquenews.com/1083/toyota-rav4-prime-2nd-fastest-selling-vehicle-america

Toyota RAV4 Prime Is 2nd-Fastest-Selling Vehicle In America.

A new study ranking the fastest-selling vehicles in America puts the RAV4 Prime second only to the Chevrolet Corvette.

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Seems at least for now, people prefer the flexibility of PHEV over pure EV.  (Also number one is a kick ass ICE vehicle ;) )

 

It actually is a damn fine product. I would proudly put one in the driveway next to the Ranger. 

6 hours ago, daves87rs said:

Sadly snowing outside....

I love Michigan, but you folks never catch a break ever on anything. Ever. 

Maybe you can sell the Detroit Lions to some Third world country....throw in the Redwings....take the proceeds and everyone in the state can move to Tenneseee or some place warm.

9 hours ago, trinacriabob said:

Exactly.  And what's even more perplexing is how some of the most self-righteous people who play the "holier than thou" card, and should know better, are either swayed by it, choose to look the other way, or are wolves themselves.

Without getting into politics, I have no clue how people could stand to watch more than 3 minutes of "The Apprentice," where any douche bag with pearly whites can show up to be a "project manager."  It didn't look like many of those contestants were schooled in engineering, construction, finance, IT, and the hard sciences that would even allow them to put parameters around a project.  That's because most of the folks who ate that sh!+ up ("The Apprentice") wouldn't even think of asking something like that. 

It's low level manufactured drama, the stuff that our nation has thrived on for hundreds of years. It's exactly why we have so many televangelists and so few people who actually follow the teachings of Christ. I love a lot of things about America, but this wing of the country isn't one of them. 

 

9 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

True. But we (our modern society) seem to WANT to be seduced by these wolves in sheep's clothing.  Our morals and scruples  seem to have been loosened over the years. And when we do that, we beget more and more wolves in sheep's clothing until the wolves our brazen enough to not even disguise themselves as sheep.  Look at the last President...   

Money...the root of all evil.  

 

 

The Denial of reality is I think the root of all kinds of evil. And it isn't just one president. Bushes, Reagan, Nixon, others were human shit stains also. 

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12 hours ago, David said:

Just quoted the linked info which calls the Hyundai that. 😆

Yes, Ferraris are Meh to me! Could die like Alfa did and would not be a big deal. Sadly, they brought Alfa back and still is a Meh, no big deal auto.

To each his own!

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11 hours ago, balthazar said:

Happiness is... a brand new (fine) wire wheel disc and grinding stone on your bench grinder.

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