Mercedez Benz News Mercedes EQG Catches up to Rivian with Tank Turn!

[David]

Mercedes in September of 2021 did a preview of the all-electric EQG, the eventual replacement for their famous G-Wagon.

To quote their press release: With the Concept EQG, Mercedes-Benz presents the near-production study of an all-electric model variant of its utilitarian off-road icon. Visually, the concept car combines the unmistakably striking look of the G-Class with selected design elements typical of all-electric models from Mercedes as contrasting highlights. The 4x4 qualities of the "G", which have always set the highest standard, will not only find their way into the age of electric mobility, but will be developed even further in some areas. The Concept EQG thus offers a promising preview of what a Mercedes-Benz G-Class with battery-electric drive will be capable of.

Mercedes even went and showed their working prototype out on the trails and with a photoshopped in future city.

 Per their own press release, this is what Mercedes had to say about the EQG:

Classic G-Class design language with quotes from Mercedes-EQ design

The Concept EQG is also very much in the design tradition of the model series and can be recognised at first glance as a G-Class. The near-production study adopts the G-Class' angular silhouette including its iconic elements. Illuminated stripes make the robust exterior protective strips stand out visually. The separating edge of the attractive two-tone paint finish – gloss black on top, gloss aluminium beam on the bottom – runs in the area of the front end directly under the overlying bonnet, thus emphasising this design feature even more clearly.

The front view of the Concept EQG looks familiar, not least because of the typical round headlights. Instead of a radiator grille, as on the conventionally powered model versions, this all-electric variant features a continuous deep black radiator grille. In this Black Panel Grille, the illuminated star with 3D effect sets a striking accent. Around it, the animated pattern of "round squares" (squircle pattern) in the familiar blue of the Mercedes-EQ models creates a visual link. An all-round illuminated band wraps the Black Panel, which, alongside the white illuminated circles in the exterior mirror housings, complements the daytime running light graphic of the headlights.

The Concept EQG rides on 22-inch polished aluminium alloy wheels in an exclusive design. Instead of the usual spare wheel cover, there is a lockable box with white illuminated accents on the rear door, whose design is reminiscent of a wallbox. This could be used, for example, to store the charging cable within easy reach. "We're travelling into the future with the new EQG! This car epitomises the fusion of state-of-the-art off-road capabilities with the dawn of electric mobility that we all need to strive for. It stands for our relentless pursuit of the utmost desire and luxury. For us, the most important thing was to keep the full G-Class DNA but beam it into the EQ age: Like the G-Class but different. Modern accents like the white LED technology and a wallbox on the rear of the vehicle illustrate the difference." says Gorden Wagener, Chief Design Officer Daimler Group.

Another highlight of the exterior design is the flat roof rack in high-gloss black. The central element of its minimalist design is the centrally shaped "G", which is unmistakable in the top view. The white LED strip integrated into the front edge of the roof rack is a modern interpretation of the searchlight indispensable for demanding off-road adventures – and thus underlines the seriousness of the Concept EQG in this area: not despite of, but precisely because of its all-electric drive. Another LED strip in red finish forms the rear end of the roof rack.

"We are proud of the more than 400,000 'G's we have produced to date," emphasises Dr Emmerich Schiller, Managing Director of Mercedes-Benz G GmbH and Head of the Off-Road Vehicle Product Division at Mercedes-Benz AG. "In its more than 40-year model history, the G-Class has always used the most modern and suitable drive technology at the time – from the pre-chamber naturally aspirated diesel of the early days to the AMG 4.0-litre V8 in the current top model, the G 63. Against the background of our 'Electric only' strategy, the electrification of this off-road legend is simply the logical next step – and an absolutely fascinating project. Our icon is and remains 'stronger than time' in every respect."

An uncompromising off-roader – precisely because of the electric drive system

The Concept EQG is clearly a "G" not only in terms of design, but also because of its inner values, making it an uncompromising off-roader. Its body is also based on the robust ladder frame. The chassis design remains extremely off-road capable, as is typical of the G-Class: with independent suspension on the front axle and a rigid axle at the rear, newly developed for the integration of the electric drive. With four electric motors close to the wheels and individually controllable, the vehicle will offer unique driving characteristics both on- and off-road. As with any real 4x4, the Concept EQG's off-road reduction can be activated via a shiftable 2-speed gearbox in order to meet the high "G"-specific off-road requirements with confidence.

Equipped in this way, the fully electrically powered version of the G-Class will of course face the legendary test track on the 1445-metre high Schöckl mountain in Graz at the end of its development into a series model. Peppered with gradients of up to 60 degrees, the 5.6-kilometre route has always been regarded in the international off-road scene as one of the world's greatest challenges for man and technology. After successfully conquering it, the electric "G" will also be able to adorn itself with the "Schöckl proved" quality certificate that is obligatory for the 463 series. And like its conventionally driven brothers, it will also shine with a climbing capacity of up to 100 per cent on suitable ground.

The design advantages of the electric drive also play into its favour, making it ideally suited for off-road vehicles and ambitious off-road operations. The batteries integrated into the ladder frame ensure a low centre of gravity. Since the electric motors provide their maximum torque practically with the first revolution, an all-electric off-road vehicle like the Concept EQG and the later production model boast enormous pulling power and controllability – which also proves to be an advantage on steep slopes and deep terrain.

Yet with no timeline of when the EQG might get to market, the overall industry has been left with little to understand or know about this newest electric auto that is supposed to eventually replace the ICE G-Wagon. 

While many automakers that are bringing electric autos to market have turned to rear-wheel-steering for tight close quarter turns making this a must-have feature for full size trucks and SUVs to enable a more maneuverability overall, GMC Hummer went one further with their Crab-Walk mode plus rear-wheel-steering. Rivian was the first to really show off Tank Turn mode in their R1T achieving this by applying torque independently to each wheel in their quad motor powertrain. Tesla followed up Rivian's release of Tank Mode by releasing a video of rear-wheel-steering that is barely noticeable in the you tube videos.

Mercedes having their preview of the EQG in September 2021 and then a commercial covering the future with the EQG one must wonder what is next for them?

The wait is over as the ASV Mercedes-Benz you tube channel released the latest video of the EQG which shows they too will have a quad motor setup with tank turn.

 Overall, happy to see Mercedes-Benz is making progress, better late than never to the party. Should be a solid sale for them and then a solid aftermarket sales too.

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Stronger than time: Mercedes-Benz G-Class ready for the age of e-mobility - Mercedes-Benz Group Media

 

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[ccap41]

Which vehicle will actually get Tank Turn in a production vehicle first though? 

[David]

3 hours ago, ccap41 said:

Which vehicle will actually get Tank Turn in a production vehicle first though? 

I would be willing to bet on the Rivian as Rivian has stated Tank Turn will come in a near term future OTA Update to the auto for those that own the Quad Motor R1T.

Who knows when the EQG will get to production, where as the Rivian is in production and the software is already there, just needs to be enabled according to Rivian.

[ccap41]

59 minutes ago, David said:

I would be willing to bet on the Rivian as Rivian has stated Tank Turn will come in a near term future OTA Update to the auto for those that own the Quad Motor R1T.

Who knows when the EQG will get to production, where as the Rivian is in production and the software is already there, just needs to be enabled according to Rivian.

It has to be a little more than just enabling it, otherwise it would already be updated to do it. 

There's obviously some issue somewhere otherwise it would be have been on the vehicles upon delivery. 

I was kind of being a smart@ss and kind of not. While I hope Rivian succeeds, they're sumbling HARD out of the gate. 

[David]

18 hours ago, ccap41 said:

It has to be a little more than just enabling it, otherwise it would already be updated to do it. 

There's obviously some issue somewhere otherwise it would be have been on the vehicles upon delivery. 

I was kind of being a smart@ss and kind of not. While I hope Rivian succeeds, they're stumbling HARD out of the gate. 

We could all use a Smart@ss to liven the mood at times. I understand what you are saying. RJ is a very conservative CEO in regards to releasing features before they are ready. He is on record that the Tank Turn can be done on any Quad R1T, but wants to ensure long life and the experience for those that have bought the truck. 

I suspect they want to see how it wears on the motors and what other areas could see stress on the truck when the feature is used before enabling it.

At least they are not being Tesla in Testing features on their customers with deadly results.

[ccap41]

43 minutes ago, David said:

We could all use a Smart@ss to liven the mood at times. I understand what you are saying. RJ is a very conservative CEO in regards to releasing features before they are ready. He is on record that the Tank Turn can be done on any Quad R1T, but wants to ensure long life and the experience for those that have bought the truck. 

I suspect they want to see how it wears on the motors and what other areas could see stress on the truck when the feature is used before enabling it.

At least they are not being Tesla in Testing features on their customers with deadly results.

Yeah, definitely a smart move to make sure it is 100% ready and the vehicle can handle the wear/stress. 

[smk4565]

They should offer a solar panel as that roof rack since this thing will probably drain electricity and could be good for those off the grid types.

This will sell like hot cakes as all G-wagens do.  I think there is a 2 year wait for a gas G-wagen right now, this will have a long wait list too.

[David]

On 5/27/2022 at 7:27 PM, smk4565 said:

They should offer a solar panel as that roof rack since this thing will probably drain electricity and could be good for those off the grid types.

This will sell like hot cakes as all G-wagens do.  I think there is a 2 year wait for a gas G-wagen right now, this will have a long wait list too.

While I have not doubt that this will sell globally and especially here in North America to select consumers, I would not say that global 2021 sales of 41,174 G-Wagons is selling like hot cakes. 

Mercedes-Benz G-Class Sales Figures | GCBC (goodcarbadcar.net)

[smk4565]

1 hour ago, David said:

While I have not doubt that this will sell globally and especially here in North America to select consumers, I would not say that global 2021 sales of 41,174 G-Wagons is selling like hot cakes. 

Mercedes-Benz G-Class Sales Figures | GCBC (goodcarbadcar.net)

How many vehicles with a base price of $130k or more sell better?  
 

2020-21 G-wagons are going for $200k on the used market right now.  Demand is huge for it and Magna Steyr doesn’t have enough capacity to match the demand.  The G-class waiting list is over 2 years long right now.