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  1. This is why. And that front unit is just the power module. There's still all of the parts for HVAC, steering, accessories, washers, etc to account for. In a vehicle as large as the Hummer EV or EValanche, there is probably enough space up there for the frunk, but in smaller vehicles it's probably not enough to bother.
    3 points
  2. Hyundai/Kia and soon Genesis are the fastest growing in EV sales right now... so the market is shrugging too. I think people are so used to buying a car of a certain size with no frunk, that it's not a big deal. It's a novelty more than anything else below something like the Lighting or EValanche which actually have useful spaces. If you currently own a gas Kia Niro, you're not going to be put off that the Kia EV6 doesn't have a frunk and go running to a Tesla instead. The trucks I could actually put my electric lawnmower in the front, so that's pretty useful.
    2 points
  3. *shrug* There must be a tradeoff somewhere. Hyundai/Kia/Genesis, Mercedes EQ, and VW MEB platforms all seem to forgo frunks too.
    2 points
  4. How did their engineers find a way to offer both with great space? It is a large 'engine bay'. At this point, even if I said that 2 cu.ft is nonexistent, if the Audi could offer a frunk that size, Cadillac should have done the same. I have realized that people associate EVs with frunks and this is why you and I (and I think @David too) might criticize Cadillac for a missed opportunity with the Lyric. Forget about Silverados and Hummers, they gave the mid-engine Corvette a trunk and frunk when a mid-engined supercar, even as a Corvette, could have forgone a frunk, but they KNEW it would benefit Corvette because people EXPECT storage space in a Corvette. GM missed the part that people ALSO expect frunks in EVs... ESPECIALLY in the market that the Lyriq resides in. yeah......that would be the proper wording. Its not a big deal by ANY means. Just disappointing.
    2 points
  5. At 2.12 and 0.95 cu.ft for the Audi and Jag's frunk respectfully is a non-issue for the Lyriq not having a frunk. Maximizing the back trunk space as what the GM guys are saying for the Lyriq and the reason why they did it that way by-passing the need for a frunk sounds like marketing BS, until you realize that Audi and Jag's frunk space is nonexistent... To which GM's words then kinda make sense as the Lyriq does in fact offer more room back there. Frunk space is kinda expected though, for EVs, so there is that... Tesla Model X for a comparison as Tesla is the benchmark.... https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modelx/en_us/GUID-91E5877F-3CD2-4B3B-B2B8-B5DB4A6C0A05.html Cargo Volume Table 1. 5-Seater Cargo Volumes Area Volume (liters) Volume (cubic ft) Front trunk 183 6.5 Behind first row, second row folded flat 2,410 85.1 Behind second row 1,050 37.1 Maximum total cargo volume with driver and front passenger 2,593 91.6 Maximum total cargo volume with 5 passengers 1,233 43.5 Table 2. 6-Seater Cargo Volumes Area Volume (liters) Volume (cubic ft) Front trunk 183 6.5 Behind first row, second row in max cargo position, third row folded flat 2,431 85.8 Behind second row, third row folded flat 935 33 Behind third row 425 15 Maximum total cargo volume with driver and front passenger 2,614 92.3 Maximum total cargo volume with 6 passengers 608 21.5 Table 3. 7-Seater Cargo Volumes Area Volume (liters) Volume (cubic ft) Front trunk 183 6.5 Behind first row, second row folded flat 2,314 81.7 Behind second row, third row folded flat 957 33.8 Behind third row 425 15 Maximum total cargo volume with driver and front passenger 2,497 88.2 Maximum total cargo volume with 7 passengers 608 21.5 The Lyriq's cargo space is plentiful and it would seem like an engineering choice to favour rear space over the use of a frunk. Is it a sound engineering choice? Possibly yes as the powertrain bits need not be crammed. Is it a sound MARKETING choice? Time will tell as many folk really dont understand engineering choices all to well... Nor do they seem to care. If they want a frunk, they WANT a phoquing frunk...
    2 points
  6. Lyriq Chief Engineer, Jamie Brewer, recently explained to GM Authority that the team decided to prioritize rear cargo space over two separate cargo areas. Thus, the 2023 Cadillac Lyriq will have a larger traditional rear storage area. In fact, according to Brewer, that enables the Lyriq to boast the “largest cargo volume in its competitive set.” That made us wonder what, exactly, is the Lyriq’s competitive set. According to Cadillac spokesperson, Katie Minter, it consists of the Audi e-tron and Jaguar I-Pace. “Lyriq is aimed at customers that are looking for a luxury SUV with outstanding styling, ride and handling and seamlessly integrated technology. In this instance, we’re looking at vehicles such as the Audi e-tron and Jaguar I-Pace,” Minter told GM Authority in an emailed statement. So then, Lyriq has a maximum cargo volume of 60.8 cubic feet behind the first row seats and 28.0 cubic feet behind the second row. When compared to the Audi e-tron and the Jaguar I-Pace, the Lyriq does offer more space in the back. 2023 Cadillac Lyriq Cargo vs. e-tron I-Pace Cadillac Lyriq Audi e-tron Jaguar I-Pace Rear cargo volume behind second row (cu. ft.) 28.0 28.5 25.3 Rear cargo volume behind first row (cu. ft.) 60.8 56.5 51.0 Frunk cargo volume (cu. ft.) N/A 2.12 0.95 Total front & rear cargo volume (cu. ft.)* 28.0 30.62 26.25 * With second row seats upright However, both the e-tron and the I-Pace feature frunks (2.12 cubic feet in the e-tron, 0.95 cubic feet in the I-Pace respectively), allowing the e-tron to have slightly more total cargo volume (combined frunk and rear cargo area). https://gmauthority.com/blog/2021/05/heres-why-the-2023-cadillac-lyriq-doesnt-have-a-frunk/
    2 points
  7. Windows or Apple matters. Also what you’re storing. I use OneDrive. $99 for 18 months at Costco or Sam’s and it includes the entire MS Office Suite plus 1TB of storage. Works great on Windows, only so-so on a Mac. It’s great for backing up phone photos regardless of OS. You can share your subscription with 4 additional people and they each get their own 1TB of storage. If you’re on Apple, I’d just go with iCloud+. Comes with Apple Music plus a bunch of other services. Let’s you sync laptop to phone super easily. Take a picture on your phone and it’s on your Mac laptop photo album in a few seconds. An alternative is Box, it integrates into MacOS a bit better than OneDrive, but on iOS it isn’t as good as OneDrive.
    1 point
  8. Saw these in Alexandria Virginia on Saturday
    1 point
  9. @oldshurst442 I wasn’t being defensive, I was simply offering an explanation for the lack of frunk. I just don’t think frunks matter to most people in this class. People just aren’t filling luxury crossovers with sand. As with my other analogy, if you’re coming from and XT6/X5/GLE, you’re not going to run away from the Lyriq to a Model X for lack of a frunk. If you’re already in the Cadillac dealership, you’re there for the superior looks anyway.
    1 point
  10. That would be you making a big deal out of both @ccap41 and my opinion on the matter. 3-4 posts in and we both came to a conclusion that it really is no big deal BEFORE you and @Drew Dowdell came in being all defensive... Go ahead and read the posts again. And the C8 (Z06) Corvette really does NOT need a frunk. Id be much happier as a Corvette fan if Chevy ditched the frunk AND trunk for a specialized, VERY track focused version of a Z06 to REALLY squash the Porsche 911 GT2 RS in track racing. But hey, lets have a frunk in a Z06 Corvette where the Z06 is about track racing but NOT in Cadillac's FIRST EV CUV... yeah...no biggie regarding marketing issues.....
    1 point
  11. @ccap41 and myself have not made a big deal out of it. However, I dont think its a novelty thing. Its not a deal breaker and it will probably NOT be a deal breaker either for other folk... However, if GM puts frunks in their other CUV offerings, then it ABSOLUTELY becomes a missed opportunity for the Lyriq to NOT have a frunk. Ive never had a frunk in m life. My ex partner had one in his Model S so I have witnessed what a frunk can do. He used the frunk in his Model S as his briefcase storage. That briefcase and other smaller plastic containers contained not so important papers regarding restaurant information and small objects. Instead of throwing that stuff in the backseat or trunk like I do, he opened up the frunk and in went these restaurant papers and equipment handles and chair nuts and bolts etc... I got that shyte in my trunk and then I lug it in and out of my trunk when I need my trunk space for baseball/softball equipment. No big deal as I can cope with it. But a frunk IS useful... no matter how big or small it may be. It can separate mundane things to bee NOT in the way to haul other shyte in the back trunk is alls Im saying. And if Mercedes will not offer a frunk, like Cadillac's slogan 'standard of the world' , Mercedes' "engineered like no other" falls waaaaaaay flat... And THAT is the full octane truth. (I could now be an internet blogger/flogger youtuber because I have an opinion.... and maybe I could now monetize this opinion. Maybe do a tik tok thing or an Onlyfans and show clips of me in my skivvies and possibly become rich and famous and a sex symbol of some sorts)
    1 point
  12. And for God's sake @David There arent many vehicles that will accomodate you bro. You are 6 feet 6 inches tall with a bodybuilder's build.. We have discussed this.... YOU are NOT the metric to go by for interior space... Have you been to Japan? I havent. But Ive read that Japanese apartments are TINY... Are you gonna say Japan sucks because YOU will NOT fit inside some of Tokyo's space efficient apartments? Stop it already with your constant need to prove interior space performance using your metrics as a standard. Its not a good argument from you...
    1 point
  13. Hello? Its a CUV.... CUVs are for hauling family oriented stuff.... Hello? Its a sports car. Its PRIMARY job description is to go fast EVEN as a daily driver. The Corvette offers storage as compared to its competition because it also doubles as a GT car. But even as a GT car, its come to be a personality trait to have storage space, but THAT is the SAME kind of trait that a Corvette SHARES with CUVs and ESPECIALLY EVs. A frunk is EXPECTED... And the Tesla Model X's price range being higher has NOTHING to do with it. Its a CADILLAC wee are talking about. You know STANDARD OF THE WORLD no matter what price range we are talking about. But if you want same price range on a very smaller vehicle. Here it goes. Tesla STILL being the benchmark The Model Y https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_us/GUID-E47C4A6D-528E-419C-8C57-FD3864644C34.html Cargo Volume Model Y with 5 Seats: Front trunk 4.1 cu ft (117 L) Behind first row, second row seats folded 72.1 cu ft (2041 L) Behind second row, seats not folded 30.2 cu ft (854 L) Maximum total cargo volume with driver and front passenger 76.2 cu ft (2158 L) Maximum total cargo volume with 5 passengers 34.3 cu ft (971 L) Model Y with 7 Seats: Front trunk 4.1 cu ft (117 L) Behind first row, second and third row seats folded 67.9 cu ft (1923 L) Behind second row, third row seats folded 26.6 cu ft (753 L) Behind third row 12.8 cu ft (363 L) Maximum total cargo volume with driver and front passenger 72 cu ft (2040 L) Maximum total cargo volume with 7 passengers 17 cu ft (480 L)
    1 point
  14. I will say that the numbers I see quoted for the Tesla X Cargo are off as in reality, those numbers just do not add up in that jelly bean shape especially the Identical cargo space for seat 3 and 2. Just looked and I see like the Chevrolet BOLT, Tesla added in the last couple of years dropped space behind a level floor to give it that space. Other wise that cargo space is like half the size stated due to the rook rake. Easy, paper shows almost 4 inches more room. If we take the approach you seem to have taken saying the Tesla X is roomy, then the LYRIQ should be even more roomy due to the added leg space. Again, I am an exception and as I have always stated, have to test fit myself in an auto first. Is the LYRIQ a Hit for Cadillac? On pre-sales yes, but for me who knows till I can do what I did with the Tesla X, try it. Iwas excited to buy a Tesla X till I tested it and it failed in so many ways for me. As such, I will wait and see about the LYRIQ and other EVs. Seems the new standard to beat is the Hyundai/KIA twins as they are selling like hot cakes and the reviews seem to love them over Tesla.
    1 point
  15. I will have to totally disagree with you on this as one that has taken the time to test a Model X and found it FAILING in so many ways. Failed with the extreme windshield rake just like Mazda, you hit your head trying to get in and this is not just my 6'6" size, but my 5'8" tall wife find it a problem too. Interior space even for my wife was tight and not spacious. Failure as NO ONE can sit behind a big person like me and leg space was still tight even behind my wife. Roof Rake on the rear is a failure for many EVs just not tesla as it eats up interior space and Tesla is not that spacious. Especially if you get their 3rd seat that is a kids jumper seat, you lose more interior space. IMHO
    1 point
  16. It is a huge shrug. The competition, Audi E-Tron and Jaguar I-Pace have 2.12 and 0.95 of cubic space in their frunk respectively while having LESS overall cargo room with all the seats down. Sorry but they are not losing much on the frunk when you see this paltry numbers from the competition. What is going to go in that small frank that can't just go inside the car to begin with? Frunks are far more useful for the pick-up crowd IMO. The Vette needed all the extra storage space it could get whereas the Lyriq is not suffering at all for lacking due to having far more cargo room inside.
    1 point
  17. Lack of a frunk in the Lyriq for me, not necessarily looks like a mistake. I dont feel like it might be a mistake. A lost opportunity to offer a tad more storage space is how I would classify it rather than it being aa mistake. Because I reserve my opinion to see how GM's Ultium platform is engineered and utilized. Yes, there is free space up there in the front. If GM engineered it for the use for powertrain bits, computing ECUs, electrical harnesses or whatnot instead of cramming those where the batteries are and limiting cooling hardware and other stuff limiting the cooling space for batteries, then Id say a job well done for GM engineering. Batteries, with what Ive read on them, need space and hardware to properly cool. All others cram all kinds of stuff in that batteerry space just to have a frunk. That is one solution that benefits the consumer for storage. But if cooling is not adequate, then it takes away from that advantage and becomes a disadvantage in another way in some form or other. If GM managed to have their batteries perform better than Ford or Tesla because they took away the consumer's advantage for a frunk, but gave the consumers a better performing battery, then the consumer has that as an advantage. Remember, batteries do catch on fire after and insufficient cooling might actual be a cause regardless how good Tesla cools their batteries....or anybody else's battery tech... Including GM's Bolt. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/06/22/tesla-fire-sacramento/ Maybe GM and LG have learned a lesson and maybe this is a solution? I dont know as I dont know how GM uses the frunk space for the Lyriq. I itching to learn more about it though. Would be interesing to know why the Hummer EV has a frunk and the Lyrriq does not. Is it because the Hummer has an abundance of space underneath where thee batteries go and the Lyriq is best engineered to use the frunk space instead?
    1 point
  18. Also saw yesterday a really clean '88-89 Chevy C1500 regular cab long bed pickup, red w/ white sections down the sides...red interior. Pretty sure on the year as those were the years they had the tiny rectangular headlights.. Just like this one...beautiful truck...always liked that generation.
    1 point
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