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I do not know what you mean by that. Either you mean it that a contract lasting 5 years is a long time. or that you think the contracts starts 5 years from now. Im thinking you are thinking its option #2. But the contract starts now OVER the next 5 years it says. Technically it starts the first quarter of 2023. Up to 175 000 EVs of all kinds. A drop in the bucket but its still 1750 000 units. It will help with monies coming in and factories producing regardless the amount... For the next 5 years...

I dont get the hate it got. I hate Trump as much as the next guy, and he didnt even come up with it...as you pointed out and @David showed us with his link, it is a beautiful livery. And quite presidential. Modern would be another adjective. The guy is a conman, but that doesnt mean he doesnt have taste. OK...I take that back... So phoquing gaudy. I like showey showey myself, and Im quite loud and egotistical, but yeah...Im not into the King Midas gold thing... And the French Provincial thing on the side and that chandelier, man.... I was born in 1973, not 1773 or even 1873... Neither was he... I like the robin egg blue and gold accents. It looks good on a 747. But I think that that livery's time has come. A more modern take would be great. I am Canadian so maybe MY voice should be hushed on that matter... I understand the darker colours being problematic with heat retention and electronics, it is a shame that the proposed livery is a no-go.

I like the baby powder blue of the current Airforce one, but I also suspect that is from my engineering background on light colors are better than dark ones for how heat is dealt with. Amazing how much hotter a black auto is compared to the same auto painted white. The rest of the plan is cool, but I have to wonder what will get overlooked as they try to make a commercial plan hardened for being Airforce One. We already know that the wings will be taken off so they can strip all the existing wiring to replace it all with hardened wiring to withstand a nuclear explosion. Then there is the hardening of the hydraulic system, hardening of the windows, fuel tank, control center for the plan on top of a proper command control center that is added to the second floor after delivery, what will be missed in this retro fit? I think the order should have been new plans from the assembly line to begin with.

This is an elegant livery. No doubt. The white has helped so many 747s look better, just look at those who ultimately went that route - Air Canada, Air France, Pan Am, TWA, Aerolineas Argentinas, etc. when they had them in their fleets. I don't think Trump comes up with livery designs. Maybe somehow he hired or gave it to came up with it. I'm not a fan of the robin egg blue on Air Force One, except that we now know that livery. I do like the one above, provided that's (dark) blue and NOT black. The raked wing design on this aircraft is a thing of beauty.

@oldshurst442 You get the laughing emoji on these posts as you nailed it in pairing the music video with the cars. Awesome and made me laugh.

@oldshurst442 Thank you for posting these pictures. I have come to appreciate the 747 so much more for it's sleek design over the fat turd of a plane by Airbus.

Donald Trump takes lots of credit for things he had no actual hand in doing. From being a business looser with 6 bankruptcies under his belt to his poor handling of so much, I would have to doubt he had anything to do with the cost overruns since the Airforce issued the contract which while Trump was there for the so called final negotiations and signed contract. Per this story: Trump strikes $3.9 billion deal with Boeing for new Air Force One | CNN Politics QUOTE: “Muilenburg congratulated Mr. Trump on his election win and committed to working with the new administration to control costs as they establish requirements for the new Air Force One to keep the program as affordable as possible and deliver the best value to American taxpayers,” said Boeing’s statement in December 2016. More than a year after Trump famously tweeted “Cancel Order” the President and Muilenburg hammered out the new deal during a White House meeting last Tuesday. The meeting, which was not on the President’s daily schedule, came after nearly a year of lower-level meetings between Pentagon procurement officials and Boeing executives that, at times, reached deadlock. Seems interesting that while Trump was running to become the president, low-level meetings had been going on already leading up to the signed contract as one of the first things he took accountability for yet was already underway while Obama was in office. No matter what, pork is pork and I am sure the Defense department of Boeing will make up for the losses on Airforce One.

There are a LOT of delays. From engineering oversights to using existing 747-8s rather than building new from the ground-up due to tedious, careful, time consuming redux renovations to Boeing mishandling the over-all project. The planes had to be put on stilts, stilts that needed to be calibrated individually each and every time a part of the aircraft had to come off so no additional stress made it to the rest of the body. Flex stress. Boeing also has some major competence problems in handling the project. One smart thing Trump did do on the contract is that any cost overruns would come out of Boeing and not the American tax payer. Boeing also hired a company to do the interior but that company went bankrupt due to Covid's influence on the world's economy so that put a kink on the time-line as well. One thing that bothers me is how Trump thinks he saved US tax payer's money on canceling the order of two new planes by buying 2 already built 747-8s from a deal that never took place due to the fact that those 2 747s were never delivered because the airline went bankrupt. However, the fact that presidential aircraft are highly modified aircraft, using 2 already built planes would require dismantling of those airplanes only to be rebuilt is just wasting unnecessary time and energy gaining no advantage... I for one, like Trump's colour proposal It aint happenin' that way. Biden ditched that colour scheme. Something about the blue on the bottom heating up the fuselage that additional engineering costs need to be made to insulate the sensitive electronics. I dont know... Its a soap opera through and though from Trump's moment canceling Obama's order and shttyng his pants with glee telling us he saved tax payer money, to the press coverage of changing of Air Force One's livery to Boeing's incompetence of delivering the planes on time to Biden's canceling of Tump's colour choice... I dont recall this much circus with George senior getting his 747. Nor do I recall reading anything bad about Kennedy and the now classic livery of Air Force One...