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Bingo. To everyone: I love fried foods as much as (if not more than) the next person--you can still eat your dim sum, fried chicken, egg rolls, deep-fried candy bars, funnel cakes, etc. They will taste exactly the same (maybe even better), but won't kill you as quickly.

This is NOT an issue of "freedom of choice" by consumers. Trans fats in food is much more analogous to lead in paint, lead in gasoline, or Red #2 (Amaranth) in food.

This isn't an issue of what people eat; it is an issue of what is added to food by manufacturers. Up until a year ago, a consumer wouldn't be able to know how much trans fat was in a product because the labeling was not required until very recently. The only way to know would be to be able to decipher the gobbledygook in the ingredients list. Even with the current labeling, you can still be mislead. If the per serving amount of trans fats is less than .5 gram, the label can say "0g trans fat per serving," even if it contains .499g per serving. From Wikipedia (Article: "Trans Fats"): (emphasis added)

Reposted from March 2008: Changes I would now make: *Kill "SRX" and rename what I have as "BRX" *Rename Saturn to Opel *Sell Hummer, merge lineup with GMC (as detailed above). GMC now Land Rover/upscale-offroad Trucks & SUVs. Professional-Grade, indeed--GMCs will be Chevrolet/Cadillac clones with upgraded, beefier mechanical components and higher prices. *Acadia dropped. *Sales channels altered; Chevrolet (standalone), Pontiac/GMC/SAAB, Opel/Buick/Cadillac.

No, this is a very, VERY good thing. Trans fats are one of those few food additives where there is no "safe" range of consumption. Any intake at all is bad for you. Trans fats convert to the very difficult-to-burn visceral fat that lines vital organs around the chest and abdominal cavities, and chokes the organs. All this law is saying is that restaurants cannot use a food additive that is harmful. I don't see why anyone would be opposed to this, unless directly tied to a company that profits from trans fat usage and consumption. Restaurants do not make food for long shelf lives, so the only benefit to trans fat usage is immaterial in the restaurant business. Restaurants are still able to use naturally-occuring fats and oils such as lard, butter, canola oil, olive oil, sesame oil, peanut oil etc.--just not anything that is created in a laboratory.

The overall level of quality was much higher than other divisions. My early 01 Aurora is still very well-put-together after nearly 90,000 miles. The interior has a couple squeaks over rough pavement, but everything works well and I get nothing but compliments from my (generally) import-snob friends. Most are surprised the car was built over 8 years ago.

From the American Heritage dictionary: I was using definition 1b.

Love it! This will likely be my future ride. As much as I like the aesthetic of center exhaust outlets, I have to wonder how GM will avoid the obvious problem of people trying to load/unload something from the trunk (perhaps way back in the trunk) and severely burning themselves on the exhaust outlets. When mounted to the side, they are out of the way of the trunk opening and any loading/unloading operations.

...What are you arguing? I said "one of the most intellectual," not "the most intellectual." Not to relive 2004 or anything, but Kerry has a much more impressive academic record than GW. I can't stand the guy because of his rampant disregard for the Constitution, cronyism, and overall ideological differences, but I think he's very charismatic. He's got a very disarming, "one of the people" personas, whether it's totally affected or not. That he is now unloading the Crawford ranch after obtaining it just prior to 2000 sure makes it seem affected, but I do not know him personally so I cannot say for certain. Washington politics is Hollywood for the ugly people--GW deserves a political Oscar for his performance, IMO.

Kerry wasn't clueless; quite the opposite in fact. He was too intelligent to get elected simply because policy wonks tend to have a difficult time relating to the public. John Kerry would have been one of the most intellectual presidents. Kerry lost because of the Swift Boat Veterans (and his failure to realize the impact of this smear campaign and defend himself) and a deficit of charisma as compared to GW.

The private schools don't :AH-HA_wink: I went to a private HS, but it was fairly diverse both ethnically and socio-economically. The HS was "multifaith" though run by Jesuits, and as a result had a very generous scholarship program to allow kids to "work off" what their parents couldn't afford in the form of staffing concessions during football games, helping with basic maintenance around the campus, and other things. Additionally, many parents used the program because they wanted their kids to have a work ethic, or to get a break on tuition. As a result, there wasn't any stigma against the work-study kids, and yet you had a high school where it was socio-economically diverse without everyone knowing who was what. It was a great experience.

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If you have a problem with a specific post or posts, alert the mods instead of making snide comments that contribute NOTHING to the conversation.

You don't have to defend yourself to me. Not going for specifics here. You've been right about things and wrong, but my main point is that yours is not the word of Og. Yes...Pretty much the point of my post... Just an observation made from your postings. Why thank you, I enjoy them myself. :AH-HA_wink:

Guys, PCS is not the word of Og. He works for GM, somewhat high up it seems, and that's about it. We also know he has a bit of a vindictive streak, as evidenced by his replies concerning Chris Doane and others. We also know he feels wronged by Pontiac due to some internal politics a while back. Knowing all this, it's pretty much obvious to me that PCS has an agenda to further his current career (nothing wrong with that) at the expense of Pontiac, with which he has some sour grapes (kinda immature). PCS presents one viewpoint, and his posts reflect that viewpoint. GM has many viewpoints, hence its chronically-indecisive product planning. Let's not get carried away here. PCS has been wrong about things before, and he will be wrong about some in the future. He will also be right about some things. But the levels of freakout around here lately are getting ridiculous. Facts: Pontiac sells well; along with GMC and Buick it is the second largest sales division. Pontiac sells absurdly well in Canada. China saves Buick, what about Canada and Pontiac? It's a possibility. Finally, Saturn was given a product surge of well-regarded products, yet sales have not improved at all. Again, nothing has been decided yet. ------------- Nothing against you, PCS. I enjoy reading your posts.

This doesn't happen. CA only governs itself. If other states adopt things CA adopted first, your issue is with those legislators, not the state of CA.

The Aurora name was used as a Cadillac concept car way back in the day, but the actual Aurora was not designed as a Cadillac. It was designed as an Olds that could be sold as a Buick if Olds were to be shut down. That's why the radio is the only place that says Oldsmobile in the classic Auroras--very easy to switch out a radio, no other badging. I also suspect that that's the reason the Toronado's classic rear light bar was made much more rounded-looking for the Aurora.

I was referring to the sleekness as being almost Aurora-like. Hmmm...considering the first-gen was a 4-door Riviera and would have been a Buick had Olds been shut down in the mid-90s, I'm gonna have to call on that. But nice try.

Disagree. It seems to have a very sleek look to it...almost Aurora-like.

Dude, you can fly high for a few days legally with prescription--DOOOOO ITTTT!!

What, you're supposed to judge other people by...a completely foreign set of values? Sorry, no way. Certain things are just wrong, and always will be. Genocide being one of them.

So lucky Vicodin works on you. Doesn't for me, so that surgery sucked bloody cotton balls. At least I now know to ALWAYS request Percoset.

"Cruze" sucks. "Cruz" would be much better!

Nice interior? What do you drive, an X-body?