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NWO = New World Order, right? That seems just a little extreme for what Satty's saying...

Not sure what science you've studied, but I remember clearly from the biology and biotechnology (applied genetics) courses I took that the processes of mitosis and myosis seem to present a pretty solid case that "life" continues through replication and doesn't ever "begin" anew. Life can end, but it never really "begins." The real debate is "at what point do you consider the clump of cells to be a separate entity"...at some point during the pregnancy, or when the umbilical cord is severed and the fetus is no longer attached to the mother?

So they used the word "fart"--but I don't get the "joke" part.

I seriously don't get it.

I think we should go for Chinese to have the most universal appeal. That is unless our site is blocked over there.

I'm actually not quite sure I get what you mean, here...it seems to me that we have two very different candidates who have, for the most part, resisted any urge to "triangulate" so as to come off as two sides to the same coin. Even on the policy side, these two are very different.

Biden isn't a "good old boy" at all. For as many years as he has been in politics, he has resisted the lobbyists. He's one of the least-wealthy senators (if not THE least), his wife is an educator, and he rides Amtrak everyday to work. Plus he's a veteran with many positions the opposite of McCain.

I'd be all for more colors in interior leather. Hell, La-Z-Boy offers furniture in colors other than neutrals. GM could really differentiate themselves from the rest of the pack by offering neutral carpets/dashes with colored seats and door trim. The 2001 Aurora offered a very rare green/neutral interior color called Mint for its first year. That was novel.

I don't think there should be a "rule" per se, but I would agree some people go overboard with thread titles. That said, many are copy/pasted article headlines reposted/quoted here, and I don't know how comfortable I'd be with re-titling other authors' articles to shorten title length on here.

Get some Bug and Tar remover from your local Autozone (I know they have it...other places will too, I'm sure). That stuff also works on getting window paint off your rubber seals, paint job, or trim pieces.

I had a $10 a day habit this summer. Thank god for the freebie coupons!

Agreed and agreed. The only people I feel bad for in this situation are the victim, and ayone sympathizing with the attacker. This is inexcusable.

OK good! I like that philosophy. BTW I'll be back in LA within a few days.

What do you think it means when you use the quote feature? I dare say I'd be laughing face-to-face. Seriously...if you relented on your constant "I/me/my ___ is better than you/your/yours" line of posting on this site, you'd be taken a lot more seriously. When you argue with someone for no reason other than you think you are better than them, without even addressing the points of their hypothesis, you won't be taken seriously. I can't take you seriously. As it is, you are the most one-note poster on this site, responding to anyone who disagrees with you with an irrelevant and semi-incoherent rant about petulant teenagers who hate the Japanese and blame them for all of GM's problems. Which generally isn't even the case on this site.

Those annoy me so much...and I see too many in LA. THAT SAID...I think it would be totally hilarious to see one of those with two mommies or two daddies.

Looks like it's in GREAT condition! Is that one of the side-saddle gas tanks, though? Because if so, boo. That thing is freaking PIMP!

Wait for sure? You didn't ditch that beautiful Camaro, though, right?

Or you could buy the 9-3 SportCombi, or the 9-5 wagon. The Astra would probably count, too. Isn't there a CTS wagon coming soon, too?

Yet again your reading comprehension is virtually non-existant. I've never asserted the above. Never. And I've never blamed the Japanese for GM's poor management decisions. Never. Pompous fool.

Again, this has almost nothing to do with what I've been posting about. You may very well be an A+ accountant, but as with previous "debates," your reading comprehension and logic skills seem unusually lacking. I'm not even going to try spelling it out for you again, because if you still think knowing the details of the one-time charges has any relevance whatsoever on the logical argument I have been making, then you are not following it at all. Really? How so? Show me anywhere that I've asserted any of the media narratives. I've never complained about "too many brands," "Pontiac is dead," "Buick is dead," or that "GM is going bankrupt." All I've pointed out is that GM's financial situation is not looking good and has not for a while, and that's something anyone with half a brain can figure out. 55 year historical lows with regards to the stockprice show that. Cutting dividends hint toward that. Selling brands/divisions illustrates that, as well as the massive quarterly losses. OK, you just illustrated in technicolor that you have no knowledge of the situation I am referring to, whatsoever. Pandering to unions? Yeah, not what I was suggesting at all. Maybe you should read up on the strike threads regarding Fairfax, say THIS THREAD. Here's a good quote:

CTS.

Oh, I really don't know about that...

ES and Camry are very easy to differentiate at night. They have totally different headlight and taillight shapes. The Intrigue and GP have very similar front ends, especially the early GPs with the "bottom feeder" air intake and no proper grille. The Intrigue's headlamps are slightly more slit-like, and I believe one amber bulb is located differently...but otherwise they are extremely similar. You're missing my point; it isn't the dollar amount I'm quibbling about, but rather how those dollars are being spent. Another example: the original CTS. The general consensus is that its interior was "cheap" for its class. BUT! That was a very expensive interior with a lot of high-end materials and details. GM needs to spend its differentiation money not on three different body panels that are non-interchangeable though they share the same styling vocabulary...but on using maybe the same body panel for all three cars with different cut seams for other hardware to better differentiate things. Or creating three distinct panels with entirely different styling vocabularies.

I concur.

I think the problem is that GM does not maximize its investments in differentiation. For example, as you correctly state, the Intrigue and Grand Prix share virtually nothing. Yet, they look almost the same on the road from the front and side profiles. I'm fairly good at identifying cars on the road, and yet even this trained eye has a very difficult time differentiating between an Intrigue and GP at night. Same thing with the T-360s. The only exterior panel they had in common was the roof, yet they all looked the same. That said, I would say the AURA and G6 sedans are rebadges, but the Malibu is not. I saw two parked next to each other in a parking lot today, and the rears are 99% identical in appearance. The taillight housings were the only differences I could really see. The front doors of the G6 differ in that they have the beltline dip, and the noses are unique...but the interiors are very similar and the rears are practically identical. Other than the aforementioned beltline dip on the G6, the profiles are nearly identical as well. Regardless of the number of "on-paper" differences, the two look like clones to the average person.