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That's what I meant...but whatever, at least I didn't "shelve" it.

Remember: a MY2010 vehicle can debut as early as January 2009.

No way...that Citroën is infinitely more attractive.

Except it isn't canola oil. It is made from rapeseed...and can be similar to canola. I know the name sucks...but that's what it's called. My friends and I have agreed that the biodiesel people should lobby to change the name to fuelseed...similar to how the prune people lobbied to change prunes to "dried plums" because let's be honest...prunes has a negative connotation too.

OK True that I guess... but why would we want to? America would be the leader in biodiesel, so wouldn't we want the switch to happen quickly? Plus the fewer fossil fuels means the less carbon going into the air. Plus...if fossil fuels DON'T run out because of a quick switch, then all those classic cars with the gas engines could still be run occasionally.

Yea, because stupid idiot America held onto them and never spent them, like they were some limited-edition novelty. I'd spend them and people would look at me like "I can't belive you're spending those!"Morons. They should have temporarily stopped minting $1 bills. That would have forced the halfwits to actually use the coins instead of hoarding them in a shoebox somewhere.

Um, these are on Lambda.

That will work until the fossil fuels run out, likely by 2050. --- As far as summer/winter blends...first of all those blends you mention are just that--blends with biodiesel. Biodiesel on its own could be used without those other fossil fuels. As far as gelling in the winter: that seems like a relatively minor issue, since I'm sure there is some anti-gelling additive that can be added.

Yes, both are scheduled to be 2010 vehicles. Remember, this is model year and not CY.

energy is NOT limited. Fossil fuels ARE.There MAY be one fuel. You haven't researched biodiesel at all I can tell. The yield is MUCH greater than E85. Since biodiesel comes from rapeseed, it is renewable essentially forever. Mustard and other kinda of seeds in that family can produce biodiesel as well, but rape is the most efficient with one of the largest yields per crop. Go research biodiesel. I have. There is no reason we shouldn't switch to biodiesel. If we do, the USA would be the world leader in the fuel supply.

Dependance on a completely renewable fuel type. As long as rapeseed is grown and can be refined, then biodiesel will be available.

It still looks sexy.

Hey, better than the "production concept" AURA two years before release!

Where is the interior overhaul?

With biodiesel you can switch back and forth between standard diesel and biodiesel with no modifications to engine or software at all. Then there'd be competition between diesel and biodiesel. Also, due to farm space, the US could be the global leader in biodiesel. No more farm subsidies. We'd be exporting fuel. How glorious?!

Bull$h!. I hope for your sake GM doesn't go under so you won't have to face the harsh reality.

In comparing the two, the LaCrosse will lose .3 cu ft in cargo capacity in switching to Epsilon-I (which it isn't...it is going to Epsilon-II, a slightly larger platform), 2.7" of overall width, 2.1" front track width, 1.2" rear track width, maintain equal headroom, Lose ~2.5" hiproom, lose .1" front legroom but maintain rear legroom, lose 1.8" and 1.6" shoulder room, gain 2.3" in wheelbase, and lose a whopping 8.1" in length. The two platforms are so similar in size, with the only significant losses being those of width, something addressed in the Epsilon-II architecture. Also...the Epsilons don't get their rear dimensions by putting the seats inches off the floor...

LaCrosse: Body width 73.0 Cargo volume, cu. ft. 16.0 Curb weight, lbs. 3495 Front track width 61.7 Head room, front 39.4 Head room, rear 37.2 Hip room, front 55.3 Hip room, rear 54.6 Leg room, front 42.3 Leg room, rear 37.6 Overall height 57.4 Overall length 198.1 Rear track width 61.5 Shoulder room, front 57.2 Shoulder room, rear 57.0 Wheelbase 110.5 G6 Sedan: Body width, inches 70.6 Cargo volume, cubic feet 14 Curb Weight, lbs. 3430 Front track width, inches 59.6 Head room, front, inches 39 Head room, rear, inches 36.5 Hip room, front, inches 52.7 Hip room, rear, inches 51.9 Leg room, front, inches 42.2 Leg room, rear, inches 37.6 Overall height, inches 57 Overall length, inches 189 Rear track width, inches 60 Shoulder room, front, inches 55.4 Shoulder room, rear, inches 55.4 Wheelbase, inches 112.3 Aura: Body width in. 70.3 Cargo volume cu ft 15.7 Curb weight lbs. 3530 Front Track width in. 59.9 Headroom, Front in. 39.4 Headroom, Rear in. 37.4 Hip room, Front in. 53.0 Hip room, Rear in. 52.2 Legroom, Front in. 42.2 Legroom, Rear in. 37.6 Overall height in. 57.6 Overall length in. 190.0 Rear Track width in. 60.3 Shoulder room, Front in. 55.9 Shoulder room, Rear in. 54.0 Wheelbase in. 112.3

Duh, competitive advantage.What the hell do you want, reveal a vehicle and have it on sale tomorrow? Good lord, Enclave gets revealed in concept form and the production version is available within a year...that's good, and no better/worse than any other automaker. You want my guess on when the production Enclave will debut? LAIAS in the fall/winter, going on sale the next day.

AURA was revealed two years ago...that was retarded.Enclave was revealed in January...production starts in November. Outlook was revealed last week. Production starts in November. Acadia starts in November, too, but we haven't even seen it! That's what GM should be doing with all their models. GM did the Camaro concept NOW to prove to the doubters they are still coming back. In an ideal world, the Camaro would be concept revealed and released within 12-18 months. Not gonna happen.

With that small of a difference...they're likely LYING.

Underwhelming.

Sorry...2010. I re-checked my information for the second post. Remember, the W-bodies were originally conceived as midsized cars, though since the late 90s they've been in the awkward in-between size between midsize and fullsize. Buick needs a true midsize, and EpsilonII will provide its underpinnings.

Please stay on topic.

Maybe they're lying about it to catch the competition off guard? It's been done in the past...