Croc

you don't mean the guy whose username was just "chris" do you? EDIT: No way in hell it's "chris"

Well, if you have no problem with acres of hard plastic on the dash where the DTS has squishy material, fine. The Lucerne interior is styled very well, but the shear amount of hard plastic is hard to reconcile. I will say this: the car gets a B- from me. If the only change made to it were an upgrade of the lower dash to some padded vinyl or something other than hard plastic, I would give the car an A-. If a few features were made available as options (like a telescoping steering wheel, a better tilt, DVD entertainment, etc) then the car would get an A+ with me. Why a B-? Because it is very obvious where GM cheaped out. GM has to stop doing this with their interiors. It's been a chronic problem at GM, and I haven't been convinced they've turned over a new leaf on this yet...too bad.

Sarah Jessica Parker

The exteriors are so good; it's just a shame the interiors are such a letdown.

There's always the gen-II Catera. Those were very nice, especially in Catera Sport trim. All the reliability gremlins were pretty much gone by 2000.

square burgers

I believe GMT 966 is Outlook, and GMX 002 was the next ION. GMT 967 and 968 would be Enclave and Acadia, or vice versa.

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You should make a high-dollar bet with someone on this, though I'd feel kinda bad for the other guy...(not pure speculation)

I didn't look at the options, just saw RWD Magnum for under 15k. It has what he listed: RWD, sporty yet elegant looking, 5 doors.

annoying

I found several pre-owned Dodge Magnums on cars.com for less than 15k. That would sound like a solid choice for you guys...

WORD. BIG BIG WORD.

Warped Tour is fun, except there are a lot of really ugly smelly people there... Fourth of July is always fun...Carmelfest is amazing Really, though, the best thing is spending lazy summer days and nights with friends throwing dinner parties for ourselves and enjoying cocktails in the backyard. I can't wait to do that this summer...

Sweet

crasian (crazy asian)

TrueType

Greaaaaat Prize... :AH-HA_wink:

Ouch, the last thing we need is another W-body with a V8...

I like the idea of environmentally-friendly plastics...go Mitsu!

Saturn is going to be way upscale from Chevy. Saturn will really be competing with VW in the US market, in the "premium mainstream" segment.

How soon are you getting a vehicle? The new Saturn VUE (if it keeps that name) will be out in 18 months or so and it will be infinitely better than the existing Thetas.

You really need to get a life. And grow up.

holes at the beach

The Torrent is a fine vehicle if you want nothing more than practical, basic transportation with some exterior styling flair. The exterior is very stylish, much more so than the Equinox. The real let-down is the Rubbermaid interior and very cheap switchgear. If that isn't an issue for you, then go for it. If you place a high importance on interior quality, then you should shop around some more. Either way, good luck with your decision!