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No, but it does guarantee that you are not butchering the English language. :AH-HA_wink:

Uhhhhhh...I wouldn't base what you think you know about me on a star sign...Most people tell me I act like an Aquarius, since my birthday is near the end of Capricorn...but...ocn's right on the whole thing. It's so universal that it's almost always true. And when it isn't directly true, it's metaphorically true, or whatever...If you really want to find something that works, something with real psychology behind it, check out some books on the Enneagram. That might actually give you some real insight into the breakup as it deals with internal motivations and how these motivations are expressed through the various personality types. Russ Hudson and Don Riso have several on this subject, and I find them to be very good.

Haha I didn't pick up on the joking in the post. Oops

Look, everyone, it's ocn's namecalling again! Ocn's a meathead.

NOS, you are now forbidden to talk anything but "valley girl" I can do a nice Texas drawl, though I need to go to the South a little more to perfect my Southern accent. I can do Canadian, Minnesotan, California Coastal (sometimes), I'm decent at Irish, New Englander? Piece of cake.

Back on topic..."Wedding Crashers" is my favorite of the bunch, though I must have missed "Slutty Summer" as I've never heard of it until now. Apparently the "Uncorked" DVD release has a bit more character development in it that was cut from the original release, though I haven't seen it yet. Let me know how you enjoy it. Easily one of the best movies of last summer IMO.

Just because the medicine tastes bad doesn't make it any less good for you.Also, I didn't say you were a douche, but that in that instant you were being one. I also don't give a $h! of the outcome if you set up a poll and had the entire site vote on it. I'm on this site to talk cars, not win any popularity contests. That said, I do care about the well-being of a few longtime members on here, and if I think they should hear something I'm gonna tell them. I have no idea if you've ever been clinically depressed, and frankly I don't care. I have been at times, as have a lot of people I know, and sometimes what you really need is a wakeup call. In the end, all that cures depression is an internal motivation or wake up call for change. Depression doesn't just "go away;" it must be dealt with head-on.

As I said, you just have to put yourself out there, shyness or not. The people who like you for you will still be there for you in the end. Of course it's gonna be rough. No one said it's easy. Several of my HS friends ended up being gay, and when I asked them about it they said that what drove them to come out and get over their hangups on doing so was that they felt they had an obligation to their friends to be honest with them about it. If these people are truly your friends, they will still be there for you. That's a fact. One of my sister's very best friends (junior in HS) just came out, and he's a really shy guy too. Everyone has been very embracing of it. One of the former moderators here, Scott, came out to one of his best friends, and while on a vacation he got a call that the friend accidentally slipped it and everyone knew. He feared the worst until he got home and found out everyone who was his friend still was, they just needed a week or so to have it all set in. From what I've heard, mothers tend to be more accepting initially than fathers, and since you say your family isn't religious at all, you might want to consider that. The thing you have to remember is that with these relationships you feel will be at risk...well they are bound to find out one day...so you might as well save yourself some internal angst and do it sooner rather than later. When life hands you lemons, you gotta make some lemonade out of it. I'm sure if you google "I'm gay" and "coming out" you will find lots of tips on doing so, and I think there's an organization PFLAG or PFLAAG or something for "parents and friends of lesbians and gays" so you might want to direct your parents and/or friends to that.

And your advice is different than mine...how, exactly? Or are you not up on the whole "carpe diem"? Don't be a douche, Chris; it ill becomes you.

Actually, it is a CREEK. "CRIK" is not a word, and "CRICK" is a small, often painful muscle spasm typically found in the lower back.

BV: my post was more directed at ocn and his "life isn't fair" comment. That said, I think it could still be valid advice for you too in some regards. Look, teenage highschool bull$h! is just that--bull$h! stemming from being a teen in HS. It will pass. Just trust me on this. You need to go to college, and find your niche. Go to a big school. They tend to be more liberal, they have a lot of people, and it is easier to find a niche than a small one where everyone knows everyone else's business. You might even want to go Greek if you can. Waitaminute! Ludicrous? No. One of my new bros is openly gay, and it's awesome. Now, granted, not all houses are as cool as mine, but his sexuality wasn't even an issue for anyone. Sucks you don't have too many friends now, but I don't know you in person to prescribe anything. That said, having few friends in HS is not foreign to me. Sucks to hear it, but it will pass, college will be MUCH better. You just have to put yourself out there. Worrying what people will think will only lead to more isolation because not only are you suppressing part of yourself to the world, but the world has no way of getting to know you, even if some people really try to. It's not worth it. I do not recommend that route. Oh, and that dwelling thing...stop it. It just perpetuates the cycle. Seriously, if you catch yourself doing it, think of something else and more pleasant. When you dwell to negatively, you amplify your shortcomings and ignore your strengths. No psychologist will tell you such a course of action is healthy. You seem to have a lot going for you, and you need to realize that. Just keep your head up, and make sure that whenever you do things, you're doing them for the right reason and not because you somehow equate it with some kind of validation. Just keep a level head. I think you'll do fine. Good luck.

Of course it makes sense; it's true.Seriously, Doane, I am speaking from personal experience, so why don't you save the sarcasm and eyerolling, mkay? Whether ocn follows my advice or continues the same self-pity road he's been on for months now is his prerogative, but happy ocn is much more fun than sad ocn, and as someone who genuinely cares, I think it's time he tries to snap out of it. Seriously, if he samples my advice and finds it sucks and didn't work for him, he has every right to come on here and post about how $h!ty my advice was in regards to his situation, but I think that that is ocn's business and not yours. Instead of criticizing my advice to him, why don't you offer something constructive yourself? Oh, wait, that's so much harder than mocking someone you've never met and is really just text on a screen to you, isn't it?

Life isn't fair, straight or gay. Quit dwelling on the self-pity and you'll find it a lot easier. Carpe diem. Seriously, life sucks and then you die, unless you make something of it for yourself. Hope this helps.

That's a bad idea. But a funny one.

Capricorn. It's bunk.

I actually think it looks pretty nice.

That is not true Islam. It is a heretical bastardization of the Religion of Peace.What about the pastors who advocate blowing up abortion clinics? See, I was talking about the actual religion, not the people of it. Oh, and let's not forget, the entire Cold War was about the U.S.A. fighting a "Godless Nation." It is from the Eisenhower administration that we have "In God We Trust" and the infamous "under God" in our Pledge. Governments of all kinds (including Church government) will use fear to manipulate the populace, using the "you're either with us or against us" mentality to further the agenda of the moment. Back in the last millenium, much of it was Christian Europe using Christianity to further the Crusades. This millenium it is Islamic radicals using Islam to further their agenda against globalization. I see no difference. --- Sciguy, if you look at religious doctrines with a critical and open mind, you will find that those three religions are a lot like Ramen: they may come in different packages, but for the most part they taste the same. My post was not bashing Christians or Christianity. It was (IMO) a fairly objective look at what has happened in history. As a Christian myself, it does taste bad, but it is reality. Instead of denying what happened, I find it more useful to study it so as to not suffer the same pitfalls as the people of the past did. If I were bashing Christianity, then I would also be criticizing Islam for holding Christianity in such high esteem. Not gonna happen.

Go Northie!

This thread could use some

"Hoosier" is just a term for anyone from Indiana. Origin unknown. I love a Southern Hoosier accent (not what you heard). The people who know English, yet have that Evansville twang...that's hot. My fourth grade teacher had that, and it just added to her hotness (every guy had a crush on her). What you heard was just someone who was likely poor and very "rough around the edges." IU is great...best party school bar none.

Prolly rural Ohio. Rural Hoosiers drawl too.Nick: only when I'm being facetious.

Exactly. From my learnings, I'd say that in terms of most peaceful, the order of the "Three Ring" religions goes something like:1. Judaism 2. Islam 3. Christianity My ranking is based on the fact that the Jews have never had an out-and-out program of any kind against the Christians or Muslims, but that they have been persecuted by both, especially Christians in the "early" days of the Church. Islam from the start preached a tolerance toward its "ancestral" religions of Christianity and Judaism, and the history of early Islam supports this. Muslims were very welcoming of early Christians into the Holy Lands, as well as Jews. It wasn't until the Crusades that relations soured. With Christianity, you have Crusades, the early European discrimination against the Jews (see: usury) and, to a lesser extent, the Holocaust. With all the various fighting in Gaza Strip and the various "moral crusades" of many Christians these days...no one is any better or worse off. When you look at actual doctrines, though, and the actual teachings of the three, all three are really about the same when it comes to pacificism

must be a Canadia thing...

G4 = Pursuit G5 = Pursuit Coupe Slight revisions are possible, but unlikely. BIG QUESTION: Will Cobalt sedan get rear treatment of Cobalt coupe?