G. David Felt

I see your looking at vehicles which I did not look at, I looked at new inventory which only shows the Mercedes-EQ option and under it EQS, so for inventory it is off from the Vehicles. Thanks,

I would give you that as correct, but Mercedes USA does not even list the EQB as a model. That is pretty bad, they have had plenty of time to have updated the website that the EQB is a model you can buy or pre-order.

True, while I have not heard of any Mach-e or Lightings bricking themselves, I have heard of plenty of other issues. But so has Rivian and Tesla, so the early stage is always hard, but hopefully next year will be smooth especially as GM and Ford ramp up their EV inventory and models.

@ccap41 I did not think to check Autotrader for the EQB. One would think Mercedes if really vested in the EVs would have their website current with models and inventory. The EQB is as ugly as the rest of the family. Interesting is why does the local Mercedes dealership website not show this model or inventory but Autotrader does for the EV. That I find very interesting and telling of Mercedes upper management and lack of commitment to their EVs when the company website and dealership websites do not show it as an available model.

Yes low prices will allow more to move to EVs. Wrong, Mercedes has only the EQS sedan at dealerships. There is NO EQB or EQS SUV at least here on the west coast as the dealerships show none in inventory. They do have pre-orders that are being taken along with the EQE SUV that is supposed to be on dealership lots by the end of this year. I also just checked the mbusa.com website and for new vehicles, the only available inventory is for the EQS sedan. Even if I go by class there is no EQB listed on their website and again as I stated above, pre-orders are being taken, but while Mercedes has stated fall 2022 for importing the EQB into the U.S., there seems to not be any actually here yet. Maybe the parts shortage is to blame. Again, Tesla has had 3 years to ramp up production of both auto and battery packs. Kia/Hyundai started this year in Korea building for a global market. 36,000 year to date for 2022 sales here is great compared to what GM and others have done in their first year. Yes, they are losing their tax credit as to why they are moving production to the U.S. next year. This is even better than the initial actual deliveries of the Mach-e for their first year.

I understand that they are two different EVs. Yet the first even for Tesla had plenty of issues once you get it out of a controlled Engineering environment. Heck we have seen that even with ICE autos that had issues. Some are willing to be first in having the auto, others like me will wait to work out the kinks first. I suspect that the Hummer is a way to work out the kinks before the Chevrolet Silverado, Equinox and Blazer EV go into production.

True, there are plenty of challenges for all OEMs right now as they enter into the EV world. Tesla is the leader, but I will be surprised if by the end of 2023 they still are especially with how well Kia/Hyundai has been doing. GM/Ford should have paid attention to the details like Kia/Hyundai did for their EVs. I admit that the dealership experience even at Kia/Hyundai has been up and down like everyone else. Some Dealerships are all in on EV and others hate em. So, this will still be a problem I believe over this decade during the transition. I expect more dealerships to get in line with the OEMs once they have like you said 30 to 50 alternative EVs available to sell and customers look at going EV. GM family of EVs all include a 220V charger installed in one's garage or you get a charging card for the first 3 years if you are in an Apartment or condo and have no way to have the charger. Pretty much anywhere you are, the world is in a catch up with charging for EVs. We Took Australia’s Cheapest EV on a 1,000km Road Trip and We Have Some Thoughts (msn.com) While this story is interesting, I do have to shake my head at the person. It does prove that not all charging is fast or working and also there is much for the public to learn about to ensure that they can be successful with an EV. I rented an electric car for a 4-day road trip. I spent more time charging it than I did sleeping. | Fox Business I will say that I think GM is right in having this FYI website for EVs. GM EV Live | Virtual Showroom

Yes, but even on my company Slack channel for social-autos it is amazing to see people post how fed up they are with Tesla. The sales process to repairs under warranty. Clearly Tesla needs a Leader who can focus on the business and communicate with out bringing in their own personal agenda. Elon Musk’s Antics Turn Owners and Would-Be Buyers Against Tesla (yahoo.com) As I posted this in Random, will now also post it here. People are holding off and waiting for other OEMs. Tesla might have the backlog on sales, but I would question just how well they will do in 2023 as other OEMs get both battery capacity and auto production online in quantity. We have also see plenty of posts by people for Mach-e that they liked it over Tesla, missed a few things Tesla did, but over all fit n finish to driving was superior in many ways. Now we have plenty of reports by past Tesla owners who have bought the Kia/Hyundai twins and say it is the new standard. I am willing to bet this time next year, Tesla will not be in the same position it is today. Like with Politicians, the public is fed up and with Musk, this is becoming very clear, the public is getting fed up and the love of Tesla is being affected.

Thanks for posting. Part of what you get for being the first for the new tech. Always will find things that the real world will break. It will only make it better as they improve the Hummer.

So again you do not look at the big picture. The Kia and Hyundai only just this year started production and sales. The EV credit being up in the air for those not produced here, sales are solid. Tesla is not all that and I have posted about this before as Musk is an Idiot in thinking he can speak the trash out of his mouth and not affect the company. Many are turned off from Tesla. On top of this is Tesla always being 3 to 5 years late in actually delivering product and this year the company even said they have no interest in producing a cheaper model at this time. Then add in that NO ONE has brought on massive battery capacity yet and are just starting production. VW also only started local production this year to make more ID EVs. You have a perfect Chicken and Egg issue here where companies are working to bring online both production of EVs and Battery capacity. Once all gets up to speed and any component shortages which even Tesla has been affected by are ironed out and then we will see true competition. Wait and see before you speak the same trash that Tesla is it and Musk is god crap. Your FAILED Mercedes has NOT Delivered on The Best or Nothing in the EV industry. Currently Next to NOTHING! No the EQS is not a Volume production auto for the masses, EQE only last month started production here in the U.S. and is not even to dealerships yet. EQB is not even here and struggling to get going in Europe and Asia. What is the Excuse for Mercedes Failure?

Interesting read and I have to agree with much of what is stated. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-antics-turn-owners-080036228.html

I find it interesting that you can find and read stories about International Harvester being brought to market by VW as a serious Off-road EV product in SUV and Truck Form. VW's International Harvester Scout will reportedly be a true off-roader | Autoblog They always show images like this from the story above. Which on one hand says they are coping the general look of the Rivian R1T and R1S, but then I also see some of the Atlas Tanoak truck too. It will be interesting if we ever actually see a Scout for sale in the U.S. The best info I can find is this New Startup venture by VW to focus on a true off-road company that will build and sell the Scout in SUV and Truck form. Global Volkswagen Group strengthens leadership to advance NEW AUTO strategy in North America - Volkswagen US Media Site (vw.com) Here they say prototypes will be revealed in 2023 with production starting 2026. The Scout Brand is Coming Back as a Rugged Electric Vehicle (newsweek.com) 2026 Scout electric truck (pickup): Everything we know (topelectricsuv.com)

Yes, this is a common side affect with the booster and flu this year. Moderna seems to be worse than Pfizer, not sure why when they are both using the same MNRA vaccine technology, but it is. Strange that you are getting it from the Pfizer side, but not uncommon for some. Rest and sleep, it will pass fast.

Agree that the whole Quirky to be Quirky is over for most buyers and that Kia and Hyundai choose to stay close to their current styling. I feel for GM, they started the Style of the EV on their ICE and the EV is the next generation of it. Much like how Cadillac started with Arts & Science style and evolved that before the blah current design of the CUV/SUV. I do like the new style of the LYRIQ EVs. Will be interesting to see how things evolve this decade as the auto industry moves into EVs and air streaming for battery efficiency plays out.

Seems Chevrolet is ramping up the marketing of their EVs. An Electrifying Future For Everyone | Chevrolet Family Photo of the current products coming out by 2023. Reese Witherspoon is the new Voice of Buick! An Electrifying Future Ahead | Discover Buick Check out the cool info on current ICE auto's and their EVs to come.

At the same time, give an EV style and it will sell well, just look at the success that the Kia and Hyundai EVs are having. Out of all the German brands, VW is Blah, Mercedes is Blah, BMW is butt ugly, Audi is the only one with a style that is nice and fits in with the ICE family. That same approach can win and that is why I think the Chevrolet EVs will do well. Be interesting to see what else Ford brings out and Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep/Ram as well as Buick/GMC. We know the style of Cadillac. Will be an interesting rest of this decade to see how the EV wars play out.

Awesome, I am very happy with having the latest booster and flu shot too. Flew to Texas last week for meeting, wore mask. About half the plane did, half did not, was surprised much higher rate of people wearing masks at the airport in Texas than I expected. But then it is all about personal comfort and safety. Mayo has a nice easy to use map based on CDC data. U.S. COVID-19 Map: Tracking the Trends (mayoclinic.org) CDC is by county in each state. CDC COVID Data Tracker: County View Safe travel Robert, stay healthy.

The Commercial Auto industry is usually a slow-moving beast when it comes to change. You can look at how little has changed in CAT tractors, Class 8 Semi Trucks and other companies. Recently change has started as Tesla showed off their own Electric Tesla Class 8 Semi Truck that has forced Paccar, parent owner of Peterbuilt and Kenworth Class 8 and more Diesel trucks to start investing in electric trucks. Caterpillar has rolled out the first of some new Hybrid and Diesel-electric products over the last few years and now has their first fully electric tractor for select use in inner city construction. CAT biggest area of growth has been their Hybrid system where electric really shines as they have powerful electric drive trains backed by efficient diesel generators giving much longer time between maintenance schedules. Yet even with the hybrid area taking off and all the talk of Hydrogen in Semi trucks, the future seems to be pure electric with solid-state batteries and as such, two of the biggest companies in the commercial space is making major change and growth. We start with ZF of Germany, a large supplier of auto parts to the auto industry and now they are moving forward with a commercial portfolio of electric motors, controllers, etc. We start with the ZF CeTrax 2 heavy-duty electric motor. This electrical drive unit has the following: Two high performance -oil-cooled e-motors Two integrated 800V Silicon carbide inverters Uses an advanced three-speed gearbox allowing the ability to powershift Weight of motor unit - 385 kg or 849 lbs Continuous power - 360kW or 483 HP Torque - 24,700 Nm or 18,218 lb-ft of torque Motor is aimed at commercial vehicles up to 44 tons. ZF decades of building transmissions and other auto components has them ready to go commercial big time as a major global truck manufacturer will be using this motor in their new Commercial EV product line starting in 2023. The next new ZF product is the eWorX, an electrified commercial Vehicle Power Take-Off (PTO) system to drive on-board work equipment. This is for those that take a basic cab/frame setup and add value as a body manufacture. eWorX is a fully integrated system that combines all the functions required for electrification of work vehicles. This system combines all the functions required for electrification of on-board equipment in a single compact unit. Providing a known mechanical interface, eWorX supports the body manufactures by removing the need to deal with the drivetrain electrical system. This allows various body builders to plug n play depending on the type of equipment they are adding to the basic body/frame solution without having to touch the actual power train which facilitates easier operations in inner city and residential areas. ZF has built an all-new Electric Power Steering (EPS) that will be the cornerstone of the 21st century. Building off their decades in building such units for the ICE Auto industry, ZF now offers an integrated e-motor to replace hydraulic fluid systems in medium and heavy-duty trucks. This system will also be the building block for next generation Advanced Driver Assistance Systems for commercial EVs. One might ask why I would want to replace the Hydraulic steering systems that have worked so well for decades with an electronic one? Easy, drive by wire is the future where this system can be independent of the vehicles drivetrain and no need to deal with a liquid or leaking hoses. This unit can come in either 24V or 48V variants, meeting diverse packaging requirements. This EPS unit is also ready for autonomous driving up to Level 5 per ZF and currently works with the ADAS system to support safety functions including continuous lane keeping. ZF is aiming to not only support the rapidly changing personal auto industry but also the commercial space as more and more cities around the world move to emission free commercial autos giving city living a cleaner breath of fresh air. For those wanting to see even more of what ZF is doing from cars to medium and heavy duty commercial vehicles and even buses and trains, check out their press page for coverage on the Global Technology Day and IAA Transportation day 2022. Press Start Page - ZF Today many see the news and hear about climate change, quality of life and greenhouse gas. On top of this, many have seen the benefits of diesel trucks, but also have complained about the black toxic exhaust that comes out. Even with treatment to try and get the exhaust cleaner, there are still toxic elements that come out and then the smell. Not everyone likes the exhaust smell of diesel. Many places have converted diesel buses to run on vegetable oil thus giving one a French Fry type of exhaust smell as some have said making them hungry while riding to and from work. Yet you still have the ICE system that has exhaust and a wide variety of fluids, noise, etc. Many companies such as Mack, Kenworth, Peterbuilt from a commercial Class 8 / Medium Duty have announced products coming to replace diesel or even Hybrid diesel or CNG products in the cities. Waste Management has one of the largest CNG fleets in the US for collecting our garbage in our neighborhoods and inner cities. Yet with this we still have ICE or internal combustion engines burning some form of gas / liquid and an exhaust. Battle Motors, formerly Crane Carrier Corporation was formed recently when CCC was bought out and the new owners have a passion for a quiet exhaust free future. Battle Motors is moving to go from building the best Garbage and Delivery trucks to the Best Electric Garbage/Delivery trucks. CCC was working on an electric truck but taking a very slow approach when they were bought out by the ex-CEO of Romeo Power who had called on CCC to buy their batteries for their future EVs. When Romeo Power went public, their CEO Mike Patterson took the opportunity to step down and focus on his desire to offer Commercial EVs and Mike bought CCC renaming it Battle Motors. Here they sped up the development of an Electric garbage truck and Electric Delivery truck. With this purchase, Battle Motors has done a $40 million dollar expansion of their New Philadelphia production site as well as tripling their production in Ohio as more cities are demanding quiet electric trucks to replace diesel/CNG. The Growth of Battle Motors has allowed the company to not only raise an initial $120 million of Series A investment but this summer also a second Series B round of $150 million to support expansion of a complete Electric portfolio and charging network. Battle Ground has acknowledged that charging is a challenge and as such, taking a page from Tesla, will setup rapid charging infrastructure based on the 800V CCS spec to ensure the delivery and garbage trucks have a network of charging places to quickly charge and continue their work. One area that CEO Mike Patterson saw potential in was the need to replace the old analogue dash system with a modern GPS system that would allow tracking, routing and maintenance all in one. This would optimize the routes drivers would take to collect garbage, minimizing power usage and allow the maintenance staff to see what vehicles really needed work, ensuring a better up time for the trucks. Battle Motors understands that not everything can be changed to pure electric and as such has moved forward with a Hybrid Electric truck series with a generator system to power the electric powertrain and a pure electric system. Companies like Battle Motors, ZF and others see a quiet, emission free service for companies in the long-term future and a need for Hybrids allowing for battery tech to continue to improve for the long road of when everything is pure electric. Look for a quiet delivery or garbage truck in your future part of the neighborhood or city. View full article

I have not seen a Polestar in the wild yet, but wow is Kia/Hyundai coming on strong as I see so many EVs all over. Becoming very common sight like Tesla. I see more Kia/Hyundai than I do the Chevrolet Bolt.

I would agree. While the truck is built in the U.S. and many parts are supplied by U.S. companies, the profits return to Japan to a Japanese corporation. I find this a contradiction that I am seeing allot this fall which I think is due to it being a mid-presidential term election year. I wonder how people can be on this Beat the American Drum kick and yet their own buying habits contradict their statements. On the October spotting, there must be a local old car get together somewhere around here locally on Sunday as I just ran an Errand to Home Depot and on the way home, half a dozen old autos were following each other up highway 99 here.

Saw two things this morning while running errands. First was a very old Chevrolet Suburban from the 1950's era in the process of being restored. It was on a trailer being towed someplace while I was driving on I5. Second thing was a Toyota Tacoma that had an interesting bumper sticker. Pro-America Buy America Anti-Trump So not a political statement or discussion I want to start, but I am interested in what others think is meant by the Pro-America/Buy America part of this. IMHO I find this a contradiction that they are driving a Toyota with that part of the bumper sticker. Thoughts?

Yes, soothing, but would you really want to fly on a Russian maintained or lack there of plane? Always reminds me of about 8 years ago, a China Airways Jet flew into Germany and the Germans would not let the plane fly due to the poor condition of the engines where Chinese folks uses seatbelt straps to hold the fins together. We have seen plenty of 3rd world planes that were fine when new in the US or Europe then sold after decades of use to a poor country who then flies them literally into the ground with minimal maintenance and then a crash costing human life. An amazing feat of human engineering that can also be deadly.

As you say, FUD is what is driving Solid-state batteries that are anywhere from 4 times to 10 times denser than today's Lithium-ion batteries plus safer. I suspect EVs starting in 2026 will tend to go towards solid-state as their production comes online. Example is the latest solid-state battery that charges in as little as 3 minutes is 4 times as dense and so if you had the battery pack the same size as current GMC Hummer, that is their current 210 kWH Lithium-ion battery pack would be a 840 kWH battery pack in solid state or from 329 MPGe to 1,316 MPGe. I doubt any sane person would have range anxiety, but they would probably complain about charging time. Course so many people are ignorant to the fact that a Diesel semi-truck can easily take up to 1hr to fuel depending on if it is a regular truck,15 minutes, extra-large tanks, up to 30 minutes or long-haul tanks up to 1hr for about 400 gallons of diesel.

@oldshurst442 Interesting that Musk posted a picture taken by Drone of their huge MegaPack Tesla Power Storage system that will allow them to not loose any power generated by Solar or Wind and in the background is the soon to be decommissioned Coal Power Plant. On the day that the next batch of MegaPacks arrived was also the day the last shipment of coal came to Maui and the plant is to be offline by the end of the year. Tesla is supposed to have this MegaPack storage online by the end of September. Then you have the fear mongering from this terrible news site. https://www.newsmax.com/finance/laurenfix/electric-vehicle-lithium-battery-recycling-china/2022/09/26/id/1089021/ That was one thing I found interesting on my vacation to Maui was the amount of wind generators offline due to no need for the power or way to store it. Tesla MegaPack will help with storing the energy for use at night.