G. David Felt

This should be interesting. Will give them big kudo's for such a wonderful eye twitching body cover.

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Looking forward to an update of 30, 60, 90 no more error code.

I like this much better than the over done chrome packages. This was done right IMHO.

G. David Felt Alternative Fuels & Propulsion writer www.CheersandGears.com Electric Conversions, Worth it? The electric movement is on and anyone that loves the auto industry and stays abreast of what is going on tends to keep an ear to the ground about all forms or power trains. Many here know that I am all about CNG, a much greener cheaper form of energy and one I believe is the next logical step away from normal gas. But this is not about CNG, but conversions to electric. Cities all across America are pushing for delivery trucks to change to CNG or Electric. Public transportation to go CNG or Electric and any and all ways to reduce air pollution from the streets of your beloved city. The movement to do away with air pollution in the city had me looking out my own office window and observing the City work trucks that are cleaning the drains. These trucks are 1 ton heavy duty trucks and full size Suburban like SUV's. I myself have a work in progress of converting my Suburban over to CNG. Like the city work trucks that had trailers being pulled, I also pull trailers. If I or the city was to go electric could it be done for my suburban or these city work trucks? We know we have many small compact electric auto's. We also know that unlike a fuel driven engine that has to build up the Torque and HP, Electric motors are 100% torque from the beginning for the most part. What would it take to power America's love affair with full size HD trucks and SUV's? Can the current batteries handle this? In this regards I started to research and what I found was surprising, exciting and for those with the coin, very doable. The whole research made me realize that in the future, we will see a change to electric auto's. Many driven with generators and many without. So what did I find that excited me you ask? First off, you have to understand that there are two camps of thought. The DC motor camp and the AC motor camp. DC motors have come a long way to compete but due to concerns by some about having to replace bushings and brushes, you will find that the Auto industry has gone with multi-phase AC motors. Does this mean that the DC motors are not worth the time and money? No just that it is a different train of thought. With this bit of information I found the following on DC motors from a company in Florida. http://grassrootsev.com/motorsdc.htm Prices I did find to be pretty reasonable. In fact for the Pike's Peak race, EV West built a BMW racer with the following engine system shown below, a dual motor drive train. Dual Motor Electric Drivetrain 1000 lb/ft of torque and 600+ horsepower Accessory kit video for AC, Power Steering and Brakes. The heaters on any auto are replaced with an electric heater box in place of your traditional heater box with blower. Here is a Video which is part of a series of converting VW auto to electric using the DC motors from the Grassrootsev.com web site. What I have found to date is that for small cars and if you are not in a steep hilly area you are probably more than fine with a DC motor. Yet for the original thought of this writeup, what would it take for HD trucks or full size SUV's, I found an answer with AC motor's. AC motors are better for use due to how they handle the torque and deal with the added work put on an auto when it comes to hills or mountain roads. EV West had a motor that is perfect for the full size HD trucks and SUV's as well as the performance enthusiast. AMR 250-90D Liquid cooled AC Motor. 560 lb/ft of torque and 420hp, weight 180lbs, 360 Volts, Max RPM 10,000, Regenerative motor. Batteries come in a large assortment but EV West focuses on Lithium Iron for maximum performance and long life. The batteries start small at only 40 Ah and go up to 260 Ah. They can be daisy chained to allow for long distance driving if needed. Top of the line battery is the Voltronix 260 Ah Lithium Iron Phosphate battery. So after researching this, I talked with Michael Bream from EV West. As he stated, large HD trucks and full size SUV's pose a bit of a challenge due to the size and the fact that they need much larger battery packs to move these heavy auto's. Pulling a trailer, being in water is not a problem for the setups. I asked him to quote me a conversion kit that would equal what I have in my Suburban. So the end result was the AMR 250-90D motor, Accessory kit for AC, Power Steering and brakes along with the electric Heater box and a series of 260 Ah batteries. The batteries would be under the suburban in holding trays on either side of the drive line. I could add another tray in place of the gas tank between the rear differential and bumper. Estimate is if I did go with all space used for batteries, I could get 300 mile range. For making the suburban a daily driver, I settled on a 100 mile range with the conversion costing about $40,000. So a quick recap of what I get for $40,000. AMR 250-90D motor Accessory kit and heater box Electronic controller system to connect dash to motor and the rest of the auto electronics. 260 Ah Lithium Iron battery pack. Misc other parts to go with installation. So does an Electric Conversion make sense? Many I feel would say no to my Suburban conversion and yet with current Suburbans running 50-60K or more. If you love your old auto and want a certain custom version, this might be your way to a 21st century old but new again ride. So in asking this question in the sense of compact auto's or other smaller cars, EV West says the typical person spends for a small 2 or 4 person auto 5 to 15K dollars to convert to total electric. That might make sense for many more. So ask yourself, does it make sense for you? Only you can decide.

Nice review, thanks for posting the experience.

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Working on Dealers is much needed, many have very old sales staff and the dealerships clearly look and show to be dated. GM needs to force the Cadillac dealerships to upgrade.

I think what Dfelt is inelegantly saying (sorry) is that Mercedes is making great inroads into Buick's market (GLA/CLA), Chevy's market (SMART) and GMC's market (Sprinter) but not so great at the core business that they're known for. Thank you Drew, I have always been told that I am a bull in a china shop and never the best at clearly stating the marketing / business case. You hit the nail on the head for me. Thank you for the clarification.

I see a lot of this: This is what the MB concept looks like to me. MB with a compliment to Chevy on the F15 Concept.

Sounds like big brother watching you more and more and you get penalized if you do not drive the way they want you too.

I agree with you Blackviper, I think this will compete more with the v-sport line as it already lost against the V series, AMG and M. Have to say the nose is still butt ugly and the dash looks just like the plain Camry. Not impressed.

Cadillac is not perfect, yet with all the changes they have gone through over the last 4-6 years, they have come a long way in a short time and the most recent changes have not affected them as much as some people would like everyone to think. With 8 auto lines down double digits, saying MB is the worlds best and can not be faulted I have to raise the BS flag. You have 5 or 6 with my missed GLA sales that have double digit growth, then you have growth in the van and sub compact eco car area but over all MB is not perfect auto company many like to say. For all that GM has done since 2007, they have really made some impressive gains.

Smooth

That is one freakin ugly car. The interior has been done and shown already from US auto companies. Nothing new.

Why not just take the one they have but state they need to change out the rims / wheel combo that you do not like.

Welcome, tell us a bit about your favorite auto?

In the case of Seattle, 65% of all CNG stations use BIO-CNG. Cows do make quality gas for use in auto's. So a Natural Green Fuel.

Except your Grandma

So I wonder how SMK justifies MB as being the best when they cannot even deliver double digit sales growth compared to GM. For the Month MB only has a 4.73% sales Growth For the year MB only has a 6.7% Negative Growth by model C Class -14.9% E Class -4.9% CL Class -53.6% SL Class -28.2% SLS Class -48.6% SLK Class -.04% CLS Class -13.1% R Class -73,3% GL Class -11.1% Positive sales B Class 780% CLA Class 93.9% S Class 90% M Class 13.1% G Class 23.9% GLK 7.5% Sprinter 18% Smart Car 12.8% More losses than gains and compared to Cadillac bigger looser.

I agree with Paolino, the regeneration should be maximized and you should not have the option to play with the settings also, I am not wowed with this sneak peak. I really hope it is better than what they have stated.

I still think all rust should be addressed on an auto and any springs poking through should be fixed. No duct tape for me.

Funny speaking people