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0 Cybertrucks were sold tho... ZERO No it doesnt. Why 1 million? Tesla does NOT sell 1 million of any unit. They barely sell 1 million vehicles. General Motors sells 8 times that. You are one confused individual. Tesla STILL relies on carbon units to make a profit... Tesla has buyers. Has a LOT of buyers. But Tesla hasnt got shyte on efficient production that could maximize profits. They had to resort to slashing prices and you know what? THAT cost them DEARLY on profit margin. Enough that investors started whining... But it is what it is... You keep believing the Mickey Mouse stories of Tesla. The ONLY reason why Tesla is still operating is because investors have invested BIG TIME on Tesla and cant back down now. They are hoping apple pie in the sky dreams thatb Elon promised. They are banking on it. But reality says otherwise. They dont have the leadership, the know-how, the products to make a dent on GM, Ford or Toyota. Let alone VAG and Hyundai. Market share IS slipping. And they dont have FRESH product to counter... The fan club buyers can buy only so much... A Cybertruck is just a toy. A crap toy at that as the Hummer, even if only sold 2, will be ramped up... Its DELIBERATELY been halted. The demand is there. The SAME demand that Tesla has got with its Cybertruck. But the Cybertruck is still in the oven. And even when it does come out, it WILL have plenty of teething issues as the Cybertruck has NOTHING related to the other EVs Elon sells. And like usual, the delays will happen... But...by THAT time, General Motors will have ramped up their EVs... Coinicidentally, when the Cybertruck is fimally scheduled to come out, so are the GM truck EVs, along with a dozen other EVs... Elon reminded us a week ago or so, that the roadster is on again... By THAT time, Chevrolet will have sold and delivered AT LEAST 8000 and possibly more E-Rays. E-Ray is a hybrid. True. But when Elon mentioned and showcased the Roadster 2.0, the mid-engined Corvette was still wrapped in mystery and in denial. I mean NOBODY thought that Chevrolet would EVER engineer a Corvette like that. You know... such a thing as a mid-engined affair let alone an ELECTRIC version of it... Good Night dude. Sweet Dreams.

Good question. But if we go with Tesla precedence and not with Musk's lyin' words, the Cybertruck will probably be priced ABOVE GM and Ford... And a big NO to that regardless of where the Cybertruck is priced at. And do you know why? Ive ranted about this sort of thing on another thread. Its about normalizng EVs. Not subjuctating them to some irrelevant childish toy. Childish toy. The Ford Lightning has a plethora of actual work truck related features that NORMALIZE it as a legit electric vehicle work truck... If Elon wasnt so gung ho about saying that he wants to re-invent the pick-up truck, the Cyber truck works PERFECTLY as a childish toy for the rich folk. But the Cybertruck is NOT about BEING a childish toy you see. It is suppose to BE a legit work truck meant to revolutionize the American pick-up truck... The thing is, Ford actually put some thought into it and actually DID revolutionize the pick-up truck by NORMALIZING the Ligntning by it looking like an actual vehicle with some gosh darnit features... If Elon didnt go with a shock value design and Elon never went with useless with bullet proof windows for a work truck that didnt actually do any bullet proofing as per the ONLY advertising reveal it did and had Elon KEPT the stainless steel body and the some sort of magic frame and FOCUSED on ACTUALLY revolutionizing the work truck and put some thought into it, he would have done it. And if he actually DONE the Cybertruck as he said he would and actually RELEASING it 2 years ago, he WOULD HAVE HAD a GREAT childish toy. But he did NONE of those things. ZERO!!! And last but not least on my point to make. GM has MORE THAN a couple of electric trucks that will go on sale or that are on sale as of NOW that just do the childish toy a helluva lot better... To come shortly Eventually And just newly announced

What Im proposing doesnt mean that I want the Lyriq to be called Sedan deVille. What I am saying is that the name Lyriq doesnt reflect the idea of this particular CUV to be THE Cadillac that every hard working succesfull American strives to buy and drive. Sure, the Lyriq name suggests that Cadillac would be THE luxury brand that is most sung about, but its such an insignificant suggestion that actually, honestly, NOBODY gives a shyte about!!! This particular CUV/SUV should have had a name that INSPIRES hard working succesfull Americans to be PROUD of their Cadillac purchase. It has the looks. It has the goods.. It doesnt have the name.... And...the NAME is a HUUUUUGE part of it, in MOST cases in the automotive world.

I bet it is. Its got great proportions. Not only that, its stately. A great modern day Sedan deVille replacement. But the name doesnt reflect that.

When GM goes all electric, and more specifically Cadillac... I wonder when the novelty and marketing spiel will wear off of having IQ as an identifyier of Cadillac EVs? Ive said this before, if a company wants to normalize EVs, then companies should start to behave in every aspect of their EV endeavors as EVs being normal automotive transportation. From the looks of the EV to the naming of the EV. (some people will bitch about the usage of EVs as well, but those people are just mis-informed morons that probably hail Tucker carlson and Laura Ingrahim as good peoples) EQx and xxxIQ and xxxx-E (as in Golf-E) and EVx (as in EV9) etc are ALL UTTER SHYTE!!! I get the transitional naming from the ICE age to the EV age thing, but its still behaviour that is NOT normalizing EVs. Its putting the EVs in a niche situation signaling that there is an ICE option. And to convince a very very skeptical American buying public that is fed BULLSHYTE about EVs on an hourly basis, THAT kind of naming just puts the EV model jwith a shytty patronizing EV centic name behind the 8 ball... The Escalade EV should NOT be called Escalade IQ. Firstly, "IQ" should be dropped IMMEDIATELY. Its a very infanitile way and concept of using IQ as indentifiers for representing EVs... IQ meaning level of intelligence. EV adoption. Marry both to get a word with IQ at the end to signify EV+EV adoption=intelligence. Its extremely childish to make such a connection. Its super cringe and it cheapens the brand. Celestiq (the name) means NOTHING. Its going to go on a 300 000 dollar plus boutique hand made vehicle. But the name doesnt do justice for what the vehicle itself REPRESENTS for Cadillac and for GM EVs on the whole. Its not even a clever name. Maybe Majestiq would work? But NO!!!! Its a STUPID childish game to do anagrams like that. Its elementary school... Lyriq? Its cute and all. Its got a message behind the name. Cadillac has been sung about millions of times. But cute wears off quite quickly. Tesla's S-3-X-Y was cheeky... But the novelty has worn off... There is no more cute to that. Elon speaks and it AINT SEXY. Its more like Shut Your FAT TRAPPER Musk boy!!! Food for thought!

My take on this IQ naming thing: Ascendiq, Optiq, Symboliq, Vistiq, Lumisiq... Escalade IQ??? Celestiq and Lyriq? Not much better than alphanumerics I say. About Better

Ack!!! Ack!!! RIP Jim Brown

I didnt mean Lizzo. I hardly know of her songs and especially the lyrics of her songs. I meant Latto. With her Big Energy song. Listen to the lyrics and you'll realize right away where Im going with the above rant. The tune is just a cover of a Mariah Carrey song which in turn is a cover of an '80s song. Its the lyrics. Nicki Minaj too. Their lyrics and more specifically, the English used is uneducated. I am not talking about the vulgarity. I am specifially talking about the uneducated English used. Plenty of rap songs that do that. That is with Black culture. With White culture, its another type uneducated English used. And ordinary citizens on the streets emulate the verbage. But...listen to older pop culture Americana and the English used, whether from Black folk OR White folk and you will see a MAJOR difference in verbage and syntax. Listen to people on the streets, average joe folk and you will fast realize that there is something amiss. I am not EVEN going to address politician speech from the last decade. But listen to President John F. Kennedy or Winston Churchill or Pierre E. Trudeau and then listen to the way politicians speak today, the last 10-15 years in either country, Canada, US or UK, yes UK and see what a phoquing different world we live in today. Our standards have greatly been reduced. Our society only seems too happy to engage in Tik Tok. Before that it was finding Pokeman and getting killed by cars because we didnt look where we were walking and crossed in front of incoming traffic. Pokeman was NOT that long ago. End of rant. I promise!

@trinacriabob All the bolded parts... I got an opinion on this. It might not be a pretty opinion. Nor a popular one. But I have to say it. There is a culture in the US that praises being dumb. There is a culture in the US that frowns upon being smart. Both are not the same but both are being worshipped. And this culture has been cultivated for decades now. DECADES with an 's'. I dont know how or when it started but I do know that some '80s movies hinted at that. PLENTY of 90s TV shows and movies DEFINETELY pointed us to that kind of culture of hating smart people and worshipping stupid. Shows like Beavus and Butthead. The Jackass movies although those came at the tail end of the 1990s are prime examples but NOT the only ones. There are MANY MANY more. We could chalk it up to comedy, but when we do chalk it up to comedy, we fail to see the sinister side of it. You see, I do not think it will get any better. It will get worse. A lot worse. And it does not matter what political spectrum you fall on. Red or blue. The dummying down of our society grows every year and both the left and right side of the political spectrum is more than happy to contribute to that. And its not just the white trash. Its the black folk as well. Beavus and butthead covers the white trash pop culture but plenty of shytty rap music that focuses on black people's lack of education sure exists. Remember the debacle in the 90s of some black higher ups wanting to promote ebonics as a legit English way of speaking for black people and it was to be taught in schools for black people? Ebonics also being the primary way of rapping in the aforementioned rap music... From celebrating gang culture and violence to letting politicians become fascists and suing teachers for showing a Disney movie because there is a gay character in the movie/cartoon and banning books and us letting them do that because we have become sooooooo stupid ourselves that we do not know what to do anymore but we are proud of the stupid decisions we allow our politicians to make and are even prouder of our own moronic behaviour. We celebrate stupid and denounce smart every chance we get in North America. For political gain and for comedy. And the citizens just soak all that up and willingly follow. From the Kardashians and Lizzo. From thinking that we will colonize Mars... No water or oxygen on the planet Mars, but NOBODY questions Elon on HOW the phoque we will colonize Mars. And I mean NOBODY questions him.... Not ONE son of a 2-itch has asked him how in the Lord's good name are we going to survive up there? From thoughts and prayers when public shootings happen and dont demand anything more... From fighting with ourselves for the stupidest of things..like NOT listening to doctors and scientists and making a mockery of them but listening to some stupid unknown clowns on the internet suggesting LETHAL recommendations and we listen to those clowns instead. From having a bold face lie EXPOSED but be toooooo phoquing proud to admit being fooled. The kicker... believing bold faced lies decades prior from KNOWN liars because toooooo proud being politically and religiously attached and now to try to fix prior bamboozlements rather than admit being stupid DOUBLE-ING DOWN ON STUPID BEING PROUD OF BEING STUPID and believing other bold faced lies. And yet....WILLINGLY not wanting to get smarter but wanting to stay dumb. Afraid of being smarter. But openly being dumb. And THAT includes the political divisiveness. The economical mess we have of no jobs and the middle class almost gone from North America to even electric car adoption that is full of FUD. And both the so called left and right are equally responsible for that. And us North American citizens are to blame for letting it get this bad BECAUSE we have allowed ourselves to hate wanting to be smart and be content and proud to be stupid. Oh yeah...I got another example Our judges allowing frivolous lawsuits to happen and awarding DUMB behaviour. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/mcdonalds-found-liable-for-hot-chicken-mcnugget-that-burned-girl McDonald's is liable for McNugget being too hot because DUMB phoquing mothert gave her 4 year old a scorching hot nugget that fell on the child's thigh in the drive through scalding the poor child. Personal responsibilty OUT THE WINDOW!!! Like I said...dummying down of our society...