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Who gives a shyte about Mt Baker. Nobody LIVES on MT Baker... The confused lookm and the facepalm things you do should be directed towards you... Seattle is where you live. Not Mt Baker. The Rockies are the mountain range more East. So what???!!! There is a smaller mountain range that is part of the continental crust that was formed at the same time billions of years ago.... The Rockies go all the way south to South America. The mountains that are near Seattle are part of the Sierra Madre? Or or those part of the Rockies? It dont matter. Innocent mistake. Same difference though. Problem is, you are trying to make it seem that Seattle is a dangerous snow place. Its not. Its a walk in the park... Unlike these... A leisurley walk the title says. Nobody freaking out. Take a look at the snow on the ground.... The video you posted is comical... And yes. The last video is from 2022. A quite calm year for snowfall in Montreal. Climate change... Ski resorts... Dude... You live in Seattle...cut it out.

Exactly. That is why I said that as a Montrealer, I whine about snowfalls and the type we get, but the snowbelt, which includes Clevekand and Buffalo and I think Detroit and Chicago, is nothing as compared to those places. And here we have David, telling me about Seattle. LOL. And then he gets confused as to why I disregard not only Seattle, but Mt. Rainier as well. Mt. Rainier.... Its not a city. And he does not live on top of Mt. Rainier. If Mt Ranier has a snowstorm, Im guaranteeing he is NOT traveling up the mountain to sight see. But in Montreal or Cleveland or Detroit, MILLIONS of people get affected and have to deal with the aftermath. During and after. Notice...all videos are of different years... 6.8 inches of snow... Dude...you guys freak out because snow is not a thing for you. We get snow...take a look at the snow falls. The snownbanks. Covering the cars. We do NOT freak out. We may bitch, but mostly we laugh about it... Remember, your words. You used freak out because people OUTSIDE of Seattle look at YOU guys and YOU guys probably freak out. Nobody accuses a Canadian in general about freaking out about snowfalls...

Its an F8. You are right. Its a variant of some sort. I looked at it quickly from the thumbnail as I didnt want to click on the video. I dont want to be a part of their revenue. The F8, or even the SF90, the 458 and 488, are all more elegantly styled than the C8. There are some lines that are convoluted on them, but the C8 is brutish just for brutish sake because its a Corvette. Which makes the C8 lines a tad uglier in some angles. There should be no denying that. I agree with you 100% as well. Hey...we found common gorund???!!! We always do inn the end. And a catch-22 it is. This Ferrari special club thing does not bother me at all. But I DO understand with someone that finds fault with it. And the hypocritical thing about me liking that aspect and actually accepting it is that Im sooooo against elitism in every other aspect in life.

Yeah...Mountains. I stopped my thoughts at the mountains by accident because I wanted say that in the mountains, there is a lot more snow. Because mountains. Seattle gets NOTHING. 6.8 inches of snow. LOL. Then you proceed to tell me about the Rockies. Dude, you are sooooo phoquing far from the Rockies. I didnt mention the Laurentians. You mention the Rockies as pride yourself like Seattle is some sort of snow haven. GTFO Dave. LOL. Its cute how you wanna make it sound that the PNW is some sort of snow hell. Dude, stop it. The mountains is one thing. The overall State and Seattle is just a walk in the park. I guarantee you, you, yeah you Dave, you wouldnt last an hour in a Montreal snowstorm... No matter how many youtube vids you wanna post about Seattle snow falls. Title says heavy snowfall... This snowfall is 5 years worth of snow for Seattle. In just one snowfall. And its just an heavy snowfall for us. Snowstorms dont really happen anymore, climate change, but Dave, thanks for the laugh this morning...

Ferrari is finally getting off their ugly phase. Like @Robert Hall stated, the Corvette C8 is more of a attainable purchase on may levels. But that is what Corvettes do. Both the F8 and the C8 have their respective beautiful sight lines. They also have ugliness too. I like Ferraris. Especially this family of Ferraris. The mid-engined V8 family of models. I like the Porsche 911. Most model years. The Corvette would be my favorite in this category of sports cars. But this category of sports cars is not what I aspire to own. Muscle cars, midsized and full sized, and fullsized American land yachts, luxury and convertible, is what makes me, me. Pony cars right after. Various Japanese sports cars of the 1980s and 1990s seem to be getting a lot of love from me lately.

Or it could be a F8 Tributo. I am REFUSING to click on the video. After seeing CCAPs post. It dont matter. Ferrari owners really dont care about what other folk think about Ferraris. About the exclusive Ferrari ownership thing. But I will repeat, they will crash that Ferrari on purpose for Youtube revenue, it will be their LAST Ferrari they will ever see. And quite possibly, Ferrari might even sue them... The Corvette engineers were benchmarking the Ferrari 458. And the Porsche 911 GT3. That says a lot about how over rated Ferrari is. I guess.

Gets a slight dusting of snow and thinks its winter... The temperature is probably hovering just a tad below freezing... Although in Montreal, it has been very very...summery over the last week and especially over this past week-end, Premier Legault, Mayor Plante and myself find it funny that Seattle got snow and we havent still. But what Seattle gets as snow in a year is laughable in itself though. All you have to do is just travel a couple of States to the East of where you are and you will have as much snow as you would desire. But I guarantee it wouldnt be long before you retract that statement. BTW, Seattle gets that nice dusty, fluffy snow. Further east of where you are, and where I am, snow aint that adorable as what you get in Seattle. Seattle gets a measly 6.8 inches of snow per year. State of Washington gets 12-18. The mountains. How cute. (I googled) Montreal gets on average 82.5. And during the colder months, its that shytty icey snow. One hour in a real shytty Montreal snowstorm and I guarantee you wouldnt be asking for more. You would want to cower back to Seattle... And that is just a Montrealer bitchin' about snow. There are other major US and Canadian cities that get it a lot WORSE... About that Ferrari. Its a SF90 Its a cousin to the Hummer EV as in its a hybrid. 3 electric motors producing 217 horsepower in conjuction with a twin turbo 4.0 liter V8 producing 768 horsepower. Total system power is 986 HP and 590 ft/lbs tourque @ 6000 RPM. 0-60 in 2.5 seconds. As per Ferrari. As per Car and Driver, they managed a 2 second run flat 0-60. Quarter mile in 9.6 seconds @ 145 MPH as per Motortrend. Range on electric power alone is laughable @ 16 miles, but this hybrid was not engineered to be saving the planet and be free of oil. Its engineered to enhance the speed performance specs. It holds Ferraris fastest lap times at their tracks. Its the fastest hybrid AND gasoline powered car not only in Ferrari's stable but THE fastest hybrid AND gasoline powered car to date. The insane half a million dollar price tag is just...insane. But it IS a Ferrari. And Ferrari owners really dont care what anybody thinks of their Ferrari. And THAT is the beauty of belonging to the Ferrari club. If those morons destroy that Ferrari for Youtube clickbates, that will be their LAST time they get their hands on a Ferrari. And THAT is ANOTHER guarantee I make in this post!

Me too. Despite my then, American car bias, today, I sorely miss all those sporty 2dr hatchbacks and coupes regardless of where the country of origin these cars were from. Nothing like that is being made anymore. And those kinds of cars back then, were more or less affordable for a 20 year old to buy. At least in base form. My friends in the 1990s all drove these kinds of cars. And most of us were not rich kids either. Just kids with regular, shytty jobs flipping burgers, selling shoes or stocking shelves... Like the shytty jobs kids have today paying for their schooling and trying to buy a vehicle to get to school and work and maybe a date here and there.

In my case, I completely understood the concept, and I cant wait for the other conversations to start. In my case, in 2022, , for me to turn back time and choose from the list you gave, the 1st editions of brand new models, like I stated, would be the Mitsubishi/Mopar triplets. But since I did own a 1989 V6 Firebird...turning back the time for me is just returning back to a model year vehicle I actually owned. Maybe I didnt buy the Firebird new in 1989 and bought it used just a couple of years later. But still. And yes, the Firebrid at that time was definetly not a new model entry, it was 22 years old at this time. But in 1989 , the sports car that I lusted after was a Trans Am. Be it the Turbo 20th Anniversay or the new 4rth gen F Body Trans Am when I bought my V6 Firebird used from a friend. And while in 1989, I did love a Mitsubishi Eclpise and Eagle Talon, I much much MUCH preferred THE Trans Am. So that would be my story for when I was 16-17 years old in 1989 and 20 when I I actually owned a 1989 model car.

There is an advantage of being a short person. At 5 feet 6 and a half to three quarters nearing and almost BEING 5'7", I got no problems fitting in these cars. Let the fun times roll! From the list that was given to us, Id gladly take the Mitsubishi Eclipse/Eagle Talon/The Plymouth Laser triplets. With those Turbos spooling please. A friend had an Eagle Talon TSi AWD. I believe it was a 1990. 2nd gens were awesome! Loved those! AWESOME that you got to experience them @surreal1272!!! And the MR2! I had a 1989 2.8V6 T-Top Firebird in 1993-1994. Now, between my '89 V6 Firebird and a '89 Eagle Talon Turbo, I think Id get myself THE Turbo. But NOT the Eagle Talon... Pontiac's version of a turboed car. @Robert Hall's choice of the Nissan 300ZX TT would be in 2nd place for me. The Eagle Talon TSi would be tied in 3rd place with my V6 Firebird and Pontiac's other turbo car for 1989. So 3 cars in 3rd place. Rounding up the list would be the Nissan 240SX. We dont have cars like these anymore. Fun fun fun things to drive...

That is a 440 right there. And why am I posting it and why is it special? Because if we divide 440 by 10 we get 44. And 44 I believe is a special number. Happy Birthday!!! @Drew Dowdell

Electric city and school busses I knew about. I also know about their intentions of wanting to sell there other EVs in North America. What automanufacturer doesnt want to sell cars in North America? Funny thing is that China today, is the world's biggest market and not North America... But wanting to sell here and actually selling here is one thing. And then...doing it successfully is another. The Japanese were succesful (to a degree) because Acura, Nissan AND Infiniti, Suzuki, Mitsubishi have had various degress of success but now in 2023, not so successful... This is because in the 1970s, a world oil crisis caught Detroit without an answer. More to it than that, it caught the North American way of life by surprise, NOT just the Detroit auto makers... Self hatin' Americans LOVE to SOLELY blame Detroit for that, ignoring they had a HUUUUGE say on how the Big 3 handled that oil crisis. Ignoring the fact that Americans LOVED their huuuuge chrome laden land yachts and thristy muscle cars just a couple of years prior... Japan (and Europe) was used to producing small 4 cylinder shyte boxes and they were already here so when the oil crisis began, they actually had the right products to sell us. But NOT because they were any good. They used less gas. Some cars they built were good. But Detroit too built good cars. Their 4 cylinder response though, was disatrous because they needed those right away. But now, with EVs, Detroit is NOT caught with their pants down. They are engineering GREAT EVs. American EVs of Tesla, Ford and GM are LITERALLY the BEST in the world... BYD, if they sell here, better have EVs that are better than the American ones, which us a TALL order to fill, if they want to survive a decade let alone be a leader in the US market... Cheap EVs is NOT the answer for America. Americans do NOT want cheap anymore. They want affordable. They want NOT to pay a big price but they EXPECT quality. Ford and GM WILL deliver on all that. Tesla might not on the quality, but they are STILL the benchmark... BYD...might deliver on price. But quality? Cheap and shoddy engineered will fail. Ford, Chrysler and GM know about cheap and shoddy. Honda and Toyota also know about that. Honda and Toyota failed MISERABLY in North America in the 1960s because their products were cheap and shoddy. Acura, Nissan AND Infiniti, Suzuki, Mitsubishi were cheap and shoddy at the HEIGHT of Japanese market share in North America. In 2023, they are struggling in North America. Yes, even Acura... cheap and shoddy. Late 1990s and early to mid-2000s Acura reminds me of late 1980s and early 1990s GM and Oldsmobile... If Mercedes doesnt change their game going forward with their shoddiness, they too will start losing out in North America. And their EVs are pointing in the direction of fail in the US market... BYD is not a factor. And wont be for a loooong time. Tesla Model 3 BYD Seal Maybe Americans like Chinese cheap knock offs. They sure love cheap Chinese made Wallmart shyte. So maybe you are right, BYD may be a force to be reckoned with... Who knows?

In the US market? Im not really following this thread. Did I miss anything. When has BYD decided to sell in the US market. NHTSA has greenlit BYD EVs for the US market? Im confused. Cybertruck was never a real threat. Cybertruck was never a real attempt for a pick up truck. Cybertruck is just eye candy. A poster vehicle for teenagers and geeky Tesla sheeple to put up in the bedrooms and their garages. GMC HUMMER EV does a better job at being a poster vehicle AND it being an actual legit EV product. And despite a recent but small recall, HUMMERS are being ordered like no tomorrow. As of July 2022, General Motors had 80 000 orders. REAL orders. https://gmauthority.com/blog/2022/07/gm-has-80000-gmc-hummer-ev-reservations-so-far/ As of Oct 2022. Hummer orders are SOLD OUT for at least 2 years. GM has capped that number, to which I diont know what number that is. The article below says that there is a 90 000 unit reservation. I guess 90 000 is the break even point. GM has capped it somewhere and it has sold out for at least 2 years. Im guessing that the Silvardo EV and the new GMC Sierrar Denali EV will pick up (pun intended) where the HUMMER EV leaves off, and then some, until GM gets the true EV pick-up truck replacements on line. (With a configurable beds) https://gmauthority.com/blog/2022/10/gmc-hummer-ev-pickup-suv-sold-out-for-at-least-two-years/ The Cybertruck hasnt even started production yet. Mid 2023... And with Musk concetrating on Twitter, and Musk being a micro-managing moron, despite the already delays to get the Cybertruck on line, since late 2021, there doesnt seem to be any urgency. Buying Twitter. Not buying Twiiter. Accusing Twitter. Laying low for two months to buying Twitter again and firing almost everybody and having some poor schmuck take photos of him working hard on....Twitter seems to be more important. So really, you mentioning Cybertruck as some sort of GM competition sometime in 2024 was not really a discussion point. Cybertruck was dated when it was introduced. Only a handful of people were awestricken with it. That was in Nov of 2019. That was 3 years ago to the day almost. It comes out now, its old news. It will come out 2 years from now. That would be 5 years from when it was first revealed. It will be ancient by then...

If I was a young, single, upwardly-mobile professional in the mid '60s and early '70s, Id gladly own these

Sure... But your opinion would be wrong, tho. Just sayin'.

Well, the Series 1 doesnt have that boxy SUV look you drool over, so Im not surprised you dont like it...

Keep at your trolling, brah. You do you.

It dont surprise me... That is how YOU misinform yourself on many things. You troll or you willfully ignore info because it does not suit your ideologies... You do you.

Im not tryin' to convince you. Just pointin' out that whatever you are doin' is not correct. And it is JUST as convenient to rent an EV in 2023 than an ICE, perhaps MORE so, BECAUSE the hotel has a charger ready available to you to use. Just as somebody has a charger at home to use, same principle here. Vacationer goes back to hotel to juice up and have 300 mile range again in the mornin'.

Maybe Im thinking it wrong. About a Corvette EV SUV... Sorry.

EV Corvette yes. But we knew that from almost the time that Chevy showed us the C8. Corvette engineers were being coy about it, but as a viewer of the C8 launch, you just knew that the C8 EV was to come. Just a matter of time. The SUV Vette however is not confirmed. Autoline 'suspects' that the electric Vette that is to be built in Grand River plant in Lansing will be an SUV... Because Buick EV SUVs will be built there. Along with a big Cadillac sedan. But that is not proof that a Vette SUV is coming. Tadge Jeucter, Corvette chief engineer hasnt been coy about a Corvette SUV or Corvette expanding a Corvette brand. He has DENIED it firmly that as long as he is Corvette chief engineer, none of that is happening... I believe that a Camaro SUV will be that Chevrolet performance EV SUV. A Camaro branded SUV. Not a Corvette one. Bowling Green is not shutting down to build EVs. Not just yet. They shut down to, normal, to upgrade to C8 castings from the C7. But that retrofit did not include EV manufacturing capabilities. Thus the EV C8 to be built at Lansing at the Grand River plant... More to it, Autoline only casually mentioned an EV SUV Vette not even acknowledging that the C8 E-Ray hybrid is out and about right now in camo... A full on BEV C8 is what Autoline should have reported on as that is what is the next big C8 Corvette announcement is gonna be. The Z06 is on sale now. The E-Ray will be in production probably this year, closer to the end of the year and when Chevy confirms it, Chevy will confirm the BEV C8 which is what Autoline falsely believes will be the SUV EV Vette.

Hydrogen aint never happenin' Not now. Not in the future. The video I just listened to that explains the waht is what on hydrogen spells a very grim look about hydrogen storage, hydrogen efficiency and the elephant in the room....the possible boom. A possible boom and aftermath wasnt even addressed in the video but it was hinted at when talking about storing it very reinforced containers and in liquid form in the Bimmer 7 Series releasing hydrogen after the car maybe left in place for 17 hours. Only good thing about any of that is that what everybody LOVES to talk about hydrogen. The by-product of using hydrogen as a fuel source is H2O. Oh...BTW, @ccap41. The dude says that the average Joe Blow likes to have his vehicle travel 300 miles before refueling... I aint trying to convince you to change your mind... I just like to pinpoint how shyte your opinion you hold is when you say that renting EVs today from Hertz is actually a hassle as compared to an ICE car today... Its not. 300 miles is what ICE cars do today. Its a standard that when engineers do their cars, they calculate the MPGs with the engine and power and weight of the vehicle and engineer the appropriate gasoline tank to achieve 300 miles. 300 mile range is the holy grail and EVs TODAY pretty much achieve that... If you are staying at a hotel... working or on vacation... https://electriccitycorp.com/hotels-with-ev-charging/ But that aint your thang...discussing with inteliigence... SEMANTIC driven bullshyte is your thang. Trolling... Not changin' your mind. Just proving you gots no argument. You could continue on your path of trolling, I will continue on my path of dead ending your trolling.