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*SIGH* Apples to Oranges What Porsche 911 are we comparing the E-Ray to? Base Porsche 911? ALL of the trims? It seems the article jumps from trim to trim when comparing the 911. And a hybrid 911 is not available yet. Soon. But not yet. The E-Ray looks to be a great C8 Vette, but lets wait and see what Porsche can and will do with a hybrid 911 and THEN let us see IF an E-Ray is better than a Porsche 911... Because of where Im sitting at, a Corvette C8 Stingray, Z51, Z06 and an E-Ray are GREAT competitors to the 911, and of course for thousands of dollars less, but...the 911 still remains just a smidgen better than a C8 in ALL categories except price tag. But...comparing apple Vette C8 to apple 911 as in the Z06 and GT3. The Z06 does its best to best the 911 GT3 and comes oh sooooooo close to besting it. And it actually does best it in some metrics. And because of that, we have to take the time to bow and applaud and give a standing ovation to the Corvette's engineers that have come THAT close in dethroning Porshe and its 911 and the 911 GT3 and never forgetting that the mid-engined C8 is the Corvette's engineer's FIRST ATTEMPT. But...the 911 being the 911, and Porsche being Porsche, in some other metrics, metrics that define what a GT3 and Z06 should be and behave, the 911 GT3 outshines the Z06 easily. And...there is a trim level ABOVE the GT3. Its the GT3 RS and the Corvette Z06 does NOT have an answer to that trim... Not yet at least... But until then, the 911 will forever be just one smidgen step better than a Corvette C8. The Z07 package is NOT an RS equivalent. The RS is a RAW track car but the Z06 no matter what aeropackage we add on it (Z07), the Z06 still remains a GT car. Its got GT car luxuries. To be a RAW track car, the Z06 has to LOSE some of the heavy luxury GT car items... A Corvette is many things. Many good things. And with the C8, the Corvette has become even MORE and BETTER things. But Porsche and its 911 are just...THE standard that ALL sports car makers benchmark. And for good reason. And the C8 is one of these sportscars that a 911 GT3 RS no less, was benchmarked after. And Corvette engineers have come close, very close in besting the 911. But Corvette development lacks the one area where Porsche just obliterates everybody else, including Ferrari, Lamborghini and McLaren and all others. Porsche develops the 911 in ALL KINDS of flavours. Until the Corvette has as many engineered flavours as the 911 has, the Corvette will ALWAYS lag just a smidgen behind the 911. And the irony of that article is that the journalist cherry picks the various 911 trims... The 911 is highly customizable to fit what the owner wants of his 911. THAT is a BIG plus and an advantage for the 911 versus all other sports cars straight from the factory. The Corvette is that too, highly customizable, but its done aftermarket, not at the factory level. This comes at a price for the 911. But the 911 commands that price and 911 owners WILLING dish it. Its NOT a fault. Its a strength. Just click on the link below to visit the site and then click on all the various 911 trims to see all the specs. https://www.cars.com/research/porsche-911-2023/trims/ Until Corvette has as many trim levels as the 911, then we could talk about the Corvette being "better". IMO, the article stating the E-Ray is better than "a 911" is just lazy journalism attempting to sound like its meaningful in some way. (Yes I read it)

The deal is that most French Quebecois IN the Montreal region ARE bilingual and speak French AND English. The deal is that English speaking Quebecois IN the Montreal region, whether of English decent or of other nationalities speak 2 or 3 languages. French included. And none have an issue with that. French people in the Montreal area have NO issues with the English language. They understand the realities of what you said. The scare tactics are for the French people AWAY from Quebec's business, sector, which so happens to BE Montreal. Sure, French people living far from Montreal do NOT speak English. They dont need to. But its a common way to get elected. Scare tactics and faslehoods being spewed... In fact, our Premier BOTH times he was elected, he had the numbers to get elected from regions that have NOTHING to do with Montreal. Montreal and most of its surroundings did NOT vote for this party in power. But...there are 2 other Quebec parties that follow in those protect the French language footsteps and are MORE of a separatist nature than the one in power now to the lone Liberal party of Quebec that seems to want to protect the English language but phioques everything else up. English, French AND the other nationalitiles are not really trusting the Liberal party of Quebec the last 15 years.... So...a lot of not good in the political realm here. Quebec is still doing not too bad in the economic side of things, but for EVs and whatever that entails in the world of electricity and batteries when Hydro-Quebec is a GLOBAL force in, this is NOT good news and a very very big step backwards in my opinion.

EV platforms will allow OEMs to produce sedans and coupes more easily and more economically effective but it is still the market place that determines if OEMs will WANT to produce coupes and sedans. The market will determine if there will be a sedan and coupe market. If North Americans wont buy a sedan or coupe, then there is no sedan or coupe to be produced.

It seems Ontario is on a roll lately as the Province also bagged Volkwagen's first North American battery factory. Great news for Canada and especially Ontario. Im a little saddened for Quebec and the news about VW's choice for Ontario rather than Quebec...but Quebec's backwards politicians sometimes focus on antiquated issues and scare the population that the French language is in danger and therefore introduce stupid laws to 'protect' the French language and also continue to ever so whisper about separation from Canada into the equation and thus scare away big global endeavors away from the Province. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-volkswagen-picks-ontario-for-its-first-north-american-ev-battery-plant/ Canada’s effort to position itself as a major player in electric-vehicle manufacturing, and to prove that it can compete with massive new U.S. subsidies for automakers, has received a major boost from Volkswagen Group. The German auto giant on Monday announced that it has chosen St. Thomas, Ont., as the site for its first battery factory outside Europe, after considering locations in both Canada and the United States. Details of the planned investment, including the dollar amount and production capacity, were not provided and are expected in the coming weeks. But federal Industry Minister François-Philippe Champagne pointed to Volkswagen’s description of the facility as a “gigafactory” – a term that is meant to indicate massive scale – to describe it as “probably the largest single investment in the auto sector in Canada’s history.”

Yesssss! VROD IS an AWESOME bike! I thought it was a commercial success for H-D. I know that there was a bunch of Harley guys that hated it, kinda like how some Corvette guys still hatin' on the C8, but I thought over all, the VROD sold well.

I do not think that is true. Not anymore. Sure...they want to produce trucks. V8 trucks. Hey...that is what makes them the cash. Ford has two EVs and both of those EVs are beholden to old school thinkers but told them outright: Your favorite Fords are now ELECTRIC...DEAL WITH IT. Their cash cow, golden goose F150. And their other icon. The MUSTANG Mach-E. And its a CUV. 4 door CUV. Cadillac has CUVed their Sedan DeVille and electrified it and called it the Lyriq. And you mentioned the Vette. And yes. The E-Ray is gonna go on sale soon enough. And there is a small pattern too. Start off with EV models that can make money from the get go. They make money on a Lyriq. They make money on the Hummer EV. Next up is the Silverado EV which is very closely related to the Hummer. At the price point that the E-Ray is at, they will make money with that one too. Especially when the C8 has been a success commercially. Would be even more so had it not been for chip shortgages and Covid closures. But...in (late?)2023 the Equinox EV and Trailblazer EV WILL be coming on line. In 2024 is when GM will be talked about and their EVs. Patience. Dont forget that in China... SAIC/GM/Wuling is selling tons of EVs. ANY hiccups will be rectified in China, GM will learn from that and GM USA will be better for it.

Id rather GM continue on the way they are on now. The EVs will be coming. Slow. But reliable. GM cannot afford any missteps, any bad press any bad anything. The Lyriq's production was purposesly slowed down for exactly the reasons I stated above. https://electrek.co/2023/01/11/gm-to-accelerate-cadillac-lyriq-rollout-after-122-deliveries-in-2022/#:~:text=After delivering only 122 Cadillac,customers receive the best quality. After delivering only 122 Cadillac Lyriq EV models in 2022, General Motors says it was purposely slow with the rollout as it worked through issues with its new electric vehicle and to ensure customers receive the best quality. With a stockpile of 2023 Cadillac Lyriq models, GM says it’s now confident in its process going forward. I bitched about quality issues of Hyundai and KIA and tied it with GM and how GM gets the shyte STILL today... We talked about Hyundai/KIA issues with their ICE vehicles, but they also have issues with their EVs... https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/hyundai-kia-ioniq5-ev6-rollaway-risk-recal/ Hyundai and its sister brand Kia are recalling their latest and greatest Ioniq 5 and EV6 electric vehicles over concerns that a software issue could cause their parking brakes to disengage and present a roll-away risk. This recall affects 10,729 Ioniq 5s and 9,014 EV6s in total. With the problem being software-based, the fix for this issue is luckily relatively straightforward and involves your Hyundai or Kia mechanic updating the software for the Shifter Control Unit. GM cant afford ANY of that kind of publicity. GM has a record of quality as of late. They NEED to continue this and rolling out EVs JUST for the sake of saying they have EVs out for sale is not necesssary as the ancient Bolt EV and EUV at the price GM is selling them now is comfortably in 3rd place. Making money for a better transition going forward with an ALL EV line-up in the very very near future. Their ICE trucks selling at a slight uptick making MORE money for GM. Why spend all that profit for unnecessary recall repairs while getting a black eye on quality and reliabilty again? GM is feeling a tad frisky in spending money. They want to go racing in F1 with Cadillac. I think THAT is a better way to blow through cash than recall repairs with even more money on useless JD Power commercials tooting reliability trying to convince people that GM cars ARE reliable. Yeah...remeber those commercials? GM's marketing department gets to advertise Cadillac, Ultium if they go racing in F1 and the exposure is ALL POSITIVE. No need to convince ANYBODY because the proof will BE in the pudding!!! Ill repeat. Hyundai/KIA and all those recalls and I YET to see ANYBODY complaing about how their wife's brother's uncle's sister bought a Hyundai and it was shyte and therefore they will NEVER buy a Hyundai EVER again. GM gets to relive the malaise era time and time again even in 2023... Rush the EVs, have as many as recalls as Hyundai has now and tell me with a straight face that GM will NOT get any blowback...

Ive had this jingle in my head today. I like the late 60's bubble gum rock style guitar twang. And the lyrics... I dig the lyrics. I think my signature had something to do with it... Anyway... if Im posting this jingle in the beautiful cars thread, I think you all know what Im gonna post...

About that front end... Im gettin' vibes from the town that belongs to the Lord Not sayin' its a good thing or bad. Im just gettin' vibes, man. Other than that...I got nothin' to say. Its yet another CUV in the North American market.

News. Reporting it but not condemning it. News reports of the 70s, 80s, 90s and well into the 2010s, NEWS reports would ROAST the Big 3. ROAST them. That NBC "news show" even staged FAKE fire explosions to undermine GM... Thank-You This is all I was saying. But of course...a little rant to go along with that stance... But the rant is genuine. Its an opinion that I truly believe in.

They might BE bringing out a ton of cars, but their cars have a ton of problems... Maybe...they should SLACK off the numbers and concentrate on quality control. Because, its kinda useless to bring out new model after new model when their models arent exactly driven by their new owners and are being recalled... Because you were quite impressed by their new model roll out. I wasnt BECAUSE well...shytty cars. Same problem Ford has had and if you have been paying attention, I have been jabbing at Ford for THAT exact reason... Ford has been just as shytty as Hyundai/Kia has for new vehicle roll out. I dont defend anyone. But I DO lend my opnion out for shyttyness. Hyundai no different. BUT... Ill repeat, its funny how when the BiG 3 done shyte 40-50 years ago...self-hatin' Americans let them know but its funny how Toyota been doin' shyte and they get a free pass. Hyundai/KIA is ALL OVER the news RIGHT NOW and not a phoquing peep... But praise them for rolling out new models at a record pace...I guess... Forget about almost record setting pace in recalls and shytyness... My bad.

No need to defend Hyundai/Kia CCAP. The Bolt's fire issues are not directly from GM but of their battery supplier... Semantics is semantics. But my point stands when deflection is made and a "WHAT ABOUT" argument arises... The Hyundai/Kia fires are from their 4 cylinder engines. Like Ford's problems with their 1.6 4 cylinder ecoboost and their 3.5 V6. But with Ford, no injuries. https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-recalls-defects/why-so-many-hyundai-kia-vehicles-get-recalled-for-fire-risk-a1169940635/ More than 7 million vehicles have been recalled. If you own one, here’s what you should know. Since 2010, more than 3,100 Hyundai and Kia vehicles have caught fire, injuring 103 people and killing one, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), the government agency investigating both automakers. These fires may be related to a type of four-cylinder engine used by both automakers. But those numbers reflect just a fraction of the millions of Hyundai and Kia vehicles that are at increased risk for catching fire for other reasons—including faulty wiring and brake system and battery problems—and aren’t part of this current NHTSA probe. In fact, according to tallies from Consumer Reports and the Center for Automotive Safety, over the past 12 years the automakers have sent recall notices for over 7 million cars and SUVs to fix problems that could cause vehicles to catch fire. In some cases, the automakers have been unable to immediately address the underlying issues and have instructed owners to park their vehicles outside and away from structures to minimize property damage if the vehicles catch fire. Like I said...we STILL talk about Ford Pintos catching on fire. Yes, I know...something more sinister about Ford CEOs tallying up what was cheaper, recalls or death pay offs. But why arent the same type of investigations going on for Hyundai/KIA right now. The past 12 years for Hyundai and Kia. The Pinto didnt last in the market place a fraction of that 12 year number. Lets hold Hyundai/Kia to the SAME standards that we held Ford and GM accountable during the malaise era and let us BOYCOT Hyundai and Kia... What about THEM apples???!!!

Yes. But...it also seems like Hyundai and KIA are suffering with recall, fire and over all reliability issues because of it. Not to mention cheap security materials resulting in TIK TOK challenge thefts that peaked the interest of insurance companies that right now, refuse to insure Hyundais and KIAs... These are all 2022 articles... https://driving.ca/auto-news/industry/hyundai-kia-to-book-another-2-billion-hit-on-engine-problems https://www.businessinsider.com/hyundai-kia-recall-fire-risk-park-outside-500000-cars-2022-2 https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2023/01/30/kia-hyundai-theft-issues-state-farm-progressive/11148537002/ Maybe they should take a slight breather and concetrate on better quality control as to not upset the image apple cart. But then again, self hatin' Americans and shytty American media refuse to put the same type of pressure on other shytty OEMs as they do to...uh...say GM...

Sure. And iron block is cheaper to produce making these types of V8 engines plentiful. One thing I dont know is how tough an aluminium block is compared to its iron block brother. I gather that a workhorse LT iron block 6.2 liter V8 Silverado could handle pull and haul loads far more greater and longer longevity than an aluminium blocked LT 6.2 liter Silverado. Yes. You were correct that my take on the L8T was focused on performance and as a crate engine to be swapped in a classic muscle car.

Except a truck or SUV could also benefit greater from an aluminium block V8... Your Trailblaser SS LS2 is an aluminium block 6.0 liter. ALL Escalade V8s from 2007 have the aluminium block. Yup. That is correct. You praising supercharged V8s on trucks, but Escalades have aluminium blocks SINCE 2007 and the V Escalade has a supercharger...with an ALUMINIUM block LT straight from the Camaro and Corvette. You could try to tell me about trucks ALL you want, ALL day long...and I wont say a thing to the contrary...BUT...when you want to introduce speed performance, a modern aluminium block engine is MORE beneficial. Alumimium casting TODAY...COULD handle ALL the horsepower one desires. And because aluminium equals lighter than iron..advantages galore...

For me, the way the rear is proportioned, the Celestiq is reminiscent of the Porsche 928. And this would be the Taycan Cross Turismo EV And Rolls Royce's boutique EV that is the Celestiq's closest competitor price wise and possibly market niche. Celestiq is a sedan while the Spectre is a coupe. What Im trying to say is that, while the Celestiq is not a handsome car in a classic Cadillac kinda way that we all want to love and adore like say a late 1960s El Dorado or any big black sleek land yacht Cadillac sedan of yore. It is a par for the course modern EV sedan luxo-barge that is actually quite stylish and better lookin' that what the competition is doing. The rounded back end that also happens to be a hatch is quite polarizing. And I think that is the idea Cadillac is going for. To not blend in. And its not ugly per se. Its stylish in a good way. Its not drop dead gorgeous. But its not BMW, big slab of 3 box design ugliness either. Ironically enough, I also like this new 7 Series Bimmer. BECAUSE its a big ugly slab of horrendousness. PS: The Spectre has grown on me. I like that EV too, now. At first, I didnt. But now, I do!!! PSS: I much MUCH prefer the Celestiq though. The Audi E-Tron GT first. And the Celestiq in second place.

Its an iron block. Its specifically made for their trucks. https://poweredsolutions.gm.com/products/l8t-engine/ from GM's site: One could dump this in a classic GM muscle car...but it be heavy over the front axles. Sure...no heavier than a big block, or small block that resided there. IMO, it be better to ignore this engine (as an iron block) and keep the status quo with an aluminium blocked LS or LT from a wrecked Corvette or Camaro... GM also still offers the crate LT1 and yes, its aluminium blocked. Until the L8T becomes aluminium for possible Corvette or Camaro duty, I aint too enthused by this piece of news. Sure its a brand new V8 but the LT1 is lighter producing more horsepower albeit a gtad less torque. Pick up a wrecked C8, and the LT2 produces even more HP and MORE torque than the L8T. And lets not forget: Aluminium which equals LIGHTER. PS: maybe the LT1 crate has been ditched, but the L87 coded engine could be made to produce LT1 HP easily... Its rated @420 instead of the LT1's 455. The torque rating is rated @ 460 4100 RPM as opposed to the L8T's 464 4000 RPM

I think I will have to adopt your opinion on this. I like how you justify it and I soooooo agree with this: I just hope that governments and insurances do NOT impose this technology on us and FORCE us to let computers drive for us. But like I said, I do NOT think that autonomous driving will EVER be a thing as I do NOT think A.I. will EVER be intelligent enough to drive us free will and free thinking humans. Unless of course we (free willing and free thinking humans) allow insurances, governments, corporations and all other oppressive forces take away our free will and free thinking liberties... About eating hamburgers while driving but letting the car do most of the lifting. Yeah...I think that is waaaay safer so I would probably bend my opposition to this tech and give in. But I dont usually eat and drive or do anything of a distracting nature to begin with while I drive...so... I repeat, I will probably be one of the last humans to adopt and adapt to this tech.

It COULD be because its yet another shytty CUV but I got deeeeep Chevy vibes with this one. Lots of sameness is what Im saying. BTW, I actually like the Chevy...maybe its all that pollution that we've done killing our planet that has started to affect my brain and its decisions to start liking CUVs like that Chevy Equinox EV thingy...

I...um...appreciate the technology. I TOTALLY get it why this technology exists and is lauded by many. But..um... I hate what it represents for actual humans driving and I hate what it will eventually become for EVERYONE driving even though I dont think autonomous driving will EVER be a thing. I HATE that this technology even exists. I HATE that this technology was even thought of in the first phoquing place. I have NO intentions of EVER using this technology. Maybe when Im old and feeble and cant drive for myself but as long as Im a capable human being, there is NO phoquing way that I will EVER give in to this technology because I KNOW where THIS technology will eventually lead us too.

No. You would be correct in your thinking. But...the rich Chinese oligarchy types dont live with the commoners so the rules and shytty standard of living dont apply to them. So...that is how big cars in China exist.

There was somebody's birthday...um 50th...on Wednseday (*cough* mine *cough*)...so to honour this awesome poster, I will post some 50th anniversary badged cars. It so happens to be on this thread's 50th page so its befitting. Its a divine sign for this divine poster... (clears throat)

And Ill add... but @trinacriabob came very close by mentioning chicken souvlaki on another post that I didnt quote. Greek lemon roasted chicken and potatoes in the oven... Or same recipe but grilled on a BBQ Ingredients not much different than any other Greek style meat whether lamb or porc or fish for that matter, BBQed or baked in the oven as in lemon, garlic and oregano... Same ole same ole Greek recipe....but... DELICIOUS just the same. My mom (did) and my wife cooks this on a regular basis. In fact...Im about to eat this very thing right now! Love this dish... like A LOT...in Greece. There is something about Greek food...in Greece, that anything prepared and cooked in Greece...just tastes sooooo much better than in North America. Southern deep fried chicken has got to be my 2nd best type of chicken. Yeah..ahead of all the parmesian and masala and Portuguese style and Gebral Tao and all those other great chicken dishes. My favorite fast food chicken is this: with blue cheese dip And...

Who knows what Dodge has planned for a final FINAL send off...for an ICE musckle car. Evil lookin Leprechauns... Next level concerning Dodge muscle car lunacy for sure....