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After doing a bunch of research on this, it isn't so much Honda/Acura are limiting charging speeds as it is the battery pack total size directly correlates to the rate of charge they can accept. The Prologue and non-SS Blazer EV have 85kWh batteries at 288 total volts and the ZDX/Lyriq/Blazer EV SS all have the larger 102kWh battery at 345 total volts. Because of the way the Ultium platforms have multiple pack sizes that can and are linked together to make larger or smaller packs, the total pack volts varies based on the application and why the Hummer/Silverado/Sierra EVs can charge at 800v when they're still on 400v architecture. Because kW = amps * volts, the bigger packs have more nominal volts because they have more cells. Below is a Prologue example and change the 288v for the Prologue to 345v for the larger packs of the Lyriq, ZDX, or Blazer EV SS and you get 190kW for the maximum (or do the math for the other chargers, as well)

It sounds like it all depends how big the storage is and how much you need to charge. It is possible you wouldn't have to pull from the grid though.

I guess I'm going to have to look into this. I do know my city gets its power from somewhere (likely Ameren), but it isn't an Ameren bill. It is a bill straight form the city. our Ameren bill is just for gas.

Yep. that's one of my biggest issues, the instability. I REALLY doubt my electricity rates will just double in a month or triple in a year or anything wild like that.

You're welcome! Yep, the problem is that it isn't the future for the rest of the world. That's the NOW for China and Europe (if I remember correctly from the video). The US is soooo far behind. It does make me curious about the Ford and CATL and/or BYD partnerships that have been going on. I'm sure Ford isn't getting that technology though.

@G. David Felt I came across this video and thought you'd appreciate it. It's a long video, but with you being the tech guy that you are, you should be entertained by it all. If you wanted to skip to the charging session itself, you'll want to skip to like the 42 minute mark. I hope the link works because YouTube links don't show up in my feed on my work computer, but hopefully this does for you guys.

I love the clean '04 GT (that looks like the anniversary badge for an '04). I'm a sucker for that gen, even though they're kind of a black sheep of Mustangs.

Obviously, but I'd think you could cut 200 miles worth of range on the battery pack and save hundreds of pounds making it just a more overall efficient vehicle and still yielding 700 miles of range. As I said to David, I'd remove as much battery pack as the engine weighs so it would be a net 0 gain in weight and you'd still have a sh!t ton of range yet it would be more efficient at achieving those miles. I'd assume it would be similar to my guesstimated numbers above.

Without knowing specifics of their design, I'd think reducing the battery pack by the weight of the engine would yield sufficient results. You'd still have a ton of electric-only range and then you'd have your "backup genergator" for when you run out of juice. Speaking of which, I ran into a guy with a 2nd gen Volt a few weeks back while taking my kids on a walk. I asked him how he liked it and what kind of efficiency/range he was getting. He loved it, HOWEVER.. he said he almost never plugs it in. He just runs it as a hybrid. I'm pretty certain they aren't all that efficient when operated as just a hybrid. I thought that was kind of a waste of a Volt, to be using it that way. I didn't tell him this because I didn't want to sh!t on his situation or anything, but I thought it was odd to buy a plug-in hybrid then just never even utilize the full capacity of the battery. Then again, this falls right in line with a multiple studies I've read about that say most plug-in hybrid owners never utilize the plug-in capability of their vehicles.

Haven't you posted proof that there is little to no difference between fast charging and L2/1 charging? Why do you get the point of it being a 400v EV? You always drag companies coming out with a new EV and not being on the latest 800v architecture? Why is this getting an exception?

900 miles of range is so unnecessary. There is so much wasted weight going on there for that kind of range.

I don't know how it took so long for me to learn this, but I just learned the 2025 Prologues (and Blazers) received a new front motor with more power and, I'm assuming, it's more efficient. The AWD Touring models gained 13 miles of range along with 12hp and 22 lb-ft to make it 300hp and 355 lb-ft of torque up from 288hp/333lb-ft.

Model cars, you say? I dabbled into the hobby for a couple years and really enjoyed it. Then I had kids and don't exactly have the free time. Do you have some pictures of your work?

FWIW, the public access chargers here at work only charge $0.20/kW. One of the three is only a really slow level 2 charger (stated 6.4kWh) and the other two are faster, but I still only think like 50kWh. All state $0.20/kW, which I was actually quite surprised to see. It's obviously still more than charging at home, but less than expected from a public charger.

Oh no, I don't spend that much on gas for the Navigator. Right now, with inflated gas prices I'm spending close to $80 for a full 7 day week of driving which nets to about $4160/yr, assuming I take no time off of work or holidays.

Haha no more kids. We wanted two, got two, and I had a vasectomy last October. I ran the numbers on keeping what I have and buying something economical to just drive to and from work and the numbers just never make sense. If I remember correctly, the numbers were something like a 6k car averaging 40mpg wouldn't pay for itself in just fuel for nearly 5 years. A more modern hybrid averaging 60mpg and costing 12k (Ionic hybrid) still doesn't pay for itself for like 6 or 7 years on just fuel costs alone. I couldn't justify a payoff period that ends when the vehicle is nearly needing to be replaced. It just makes more sense to buy what I want that is more economical.

Ahhh yes! Awesome!

What I would really like to do is get rid of the SVR and keep the Navi for my wife. Ideally I'd trade in her SVR for a ZDX. Buuuuut, she's stubborn and that's why she has that in the first place. At least she can finally acknowledge she overspent and can't hardly afford her car. That was supposed to be between her and her parents, which is why I was like "whatever" to her buying it (although I had to cosign on it). Long story short, her brother is a POS and her parents have spent a $h! ton of money paying their bills so now it is a my wife and I paying for it. The reason the SVR was supposed to between her and her parents is because she is always helping out at their store but never actually "getting paid" so they were splitting the car payment (the same as when she had her G55). Well now the nearly $1000 car payment is on us and I am none too happy about it. She did know at the time it was more than she wanted to spend but her G55 had gotten to unreliable, and with having a child with her, she simply didn't trust it to get her pretty much anywhere anymore. It had died multiple times driving leaving her stranded on the side of the road. Two times was on the interstate going 70mph and it just died. Luckily there was no kid with her at the time and she could safely get to the shoulder. Annnnnyyyywwwaaaayyyyy, What would realistically happen is trading in the Navigator. There would be no reason to have a RR Sport, Navigator, and another good size SUV in a ZDX, Prologue, or Lyriq.

Nice! What is the LT1 package, again? I remembered hearing about it when it came out, but don't remember what it included.

I'm sure there is somewhere in the St. Louis area that services them or there is a dealership there, but that's just further away than I'd prefer.

I'm not THAT opposed to a sedan, but I'd be more leery of a small company like that, that doesn't exactly have somewhere reasonable to service it, more than it being a sedan.

As much as I like the Lyric, I can’t justify a 40k vehicle… The only one here that I’d consider price-wise is the ZDX. I’d really prefer sub-30k, which is why the Prologue piqued my interest in the first place. I don’t want black, but if it had to be, I’d want a red interior. This is one of the “close” ones to me and still 206 miles away. I thought you would like this Used 2024 Acura ZDX A-Spec for $32500 on Autotrader http://atcm.co/S2PVDP/2E481ABF.

Awesome information and I'll just continue to keep an eye on them. Thank you Also, are two year leases a common thing? I think I've only ever heard of three year leases. @G. David Felt, what's your lease?

Oh I can easily wait until then. I'm really not in a rush or anything. Mostly just reading a ton and wanting more and more, haha. I did look for Lyrics but they all seem to be starting around 40k used around here yet. How do you know that there will be wave of lease returns in September?

I started in December. There's no free charging at work, fwiw. There are public chargers out in the public parking, but I'd only use that if there were somehow an emergency.