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Mercedez Benz News 2027 Mercedes-Benz VLE MPV: Electric Luxury Minivan With 434-Mile Range
I completely agree with you on the West coast being much more EV friendly and people are adapting much quicker out there. I just don't think there will be many people looking for 80-100k vans. I get it, they are crazy spacious, but people are just stubborn on the van-shape. Outside of the price, which is supposedly pretty nuts, IMO, it SHOULD do well. I just don't think it really will. It's kind of like most station wagons. A ton of people love their utility but very few actually follow through with their higher-than-a-comparable-SUV/sedan price.
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Mercedez Benz News 2027 Mercedes-Benz VLE MPV: Electric Luxury Minivan With 434-Mile Range
I can admire a company just trying to make a luxurious vehicle and not worrying about the exterior shape. Yeah, vans don't look great buuuuuut, hop on in and it's a true luxury experience. I love the idea but I don't exactly think it will take off here in the US. To me, it feels like something limousine companies will buy and that's about it. Maybe because of that, if customers have great experiences in it, it will then take off in the retail side, as well. Americans are stubborn and mostly refuse to actually get the right vehicle for their needs. Being a BEV will be a turn off for a lot and being a van will be a turn off for a lot. I don't see it doing well, but I really hope it does well.
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- 2027 Scout Traveler & Terra | Specs, EV Range, Off-Road Capability
- 2027 Scout Traveler & Terra | Specs, EV Range, Off-Road Capability
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2027 Scout Traveler & Terra | Specs, EV Range, Off-Road Capability
When it was first announced and everything, I thought VW was going to service them and I had no issue with that. There's a VW dealership about 30 minutes away. That would have been just fine with me. Theeeeeen I read they will have their own service centers and for people outside of X miles, they'd have the service come to you. That sounds good and all but I know that isn't for the life of the vehicle and when something isn't covered I'm sure there will be a distance-like service fee attached. Advance and AutoZone are stores though. Maybe there's another service center you're thinking of? Meineke? Yes. Agreed.
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2027 Scout Traveler & Terra | Specs, EV Range, Off-Road Capability
There are certainly some "in the area", but I really don't know where one is. It's really just a wait and see for Scout, for me. As much as I'd love one, this feels like it may be the biggest hurdle to get over. Price is pretty cut and dry, can I afford it or not? Where or how will I get it serviced, because it isn't set in stone right now, is an issue. I also don't know which I'd get, the SUV or truck? My first instinct says the SUV, but I'd love the bed of a truck. I only need two rows of seats so even if the SUV offered a 3rd row(I haven't looked into or remember if it does or not), I'd leave it flat more likely anyway. Okay, well I googlemaped Pep Boys and they are NOT in the STL area. I feel like they used to be, because I remember the commercials, but they certainly are not anymore.
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EV Home Charging: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly
Ugh, the uncertainty is that's annoying there. I would just hate to now know, but I understand that's how it goes sometimes.
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EV Home Charging: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly
Technically, $28 for me, but I'm never on E. It's certainly an extra $15-22 per transaction.
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Random Thoughts Thread
I certainly think that is debatable. It is horrific that an elementary school was bombed. I also think it is worse to have millions of children in slave-like-labor factories for decades, therefore effecting many many more than the hundreds that were unjustly killed.
- 2027 Scout Traveler & Terra | Specs, EV Range, Off-Road Capability
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EV Home Charging: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly
Yeah, gas is up nearly $1.00/gal here. Lovely.
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2027 Scout Traveler & Terra | Specs, EV Range, Off-Road Capability
I want one of these so bad. I wouldn't even worry about the "range extended" version as the EV range will be sufficient enough for me. 350 miles of range is more than enough for me. I'd be fine with like 275+ miles of range. My only issue is price and if I could swallow a 60-70k depreciating asset. Oh, I guess my other issue is the dealership/maintenance/repair network situation. I know they're supposed to be building a repair network, but I still worry without any legacy-like established buildings. Yes, they claim to drive to you wherever you are and I'm sure that's only while under warranty, but what happens outside of warranty? Am I paying like a $500 bill to come to my house then to diagnose an issue?
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Random Thoughts Thread
Everything I've read says they will support AA/CP. I'd LOVE a Scout but I'm not sure if I could swallow the price. I think it's a mistake to allow Chinese vehicles into Canada or the US. You're right. They only have children working in near-slave-like conditions. Good point. 🙄
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EV Home Charging: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly
Just a weeeeee bit off of the price of vehicle difference.. 6/32 is more than 20%. 2/32 is the legal wear marks and most street tires come brand new at 10-11/32. You've likely worn off 4/32 and have 4/32 remaining before the wear bars. If your tires are at 6/32, you're right at 50%.
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EV Home Charging: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly
Welp, I started a new job in December and I will be driving close to 20k miles a year now. 300/week just to and from work = 15,000 + other regular driving will easily net 20,000 miles in a year now.
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Random Thoughts Thread
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Hahaha they compared a $1700 two-stage Ego to two cheap, single-stage units. 200lb Ego vs 33lb Greenworks vs 47lb Worx. Why they wouldn't have at least tried Greenworks two-stage units is just plain stilly. Also, why not against another real unit in one of Toro's $1700 two-stage unit. What a crap comparison.
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WTF kind of article is this? Piss-poor grammar and sentences. "By the time the odometer ticked past that 160,000 kilometre mark, equivalent to 160,000 kilometres, 99,000, the pack still retained over 90 percent of its original net capacity." Then it jumps to 91% remaining capacity somehow...? And when jumping to 91% capacity remaining, I don't think they did any math at all. See below for a paragraph that shouldn't be made as evidence of anything. As an engineer, this kind of "facts" should infuriate you. "Battery health statistics can sound abstract until you translate them into the range figure you see on your dashboard. In this case, the Volkswagen ID. 3 Pro S started life with a usable pack of 77 kWh, and independent testing recorded an initial real world range of 77 k and 272 miles on a full charge. After the long term trial, the car still had 91% of its battery capacity, a figure that aligns with separate reporting that the Volkswagen ID 3 retained 91% battery capacity in a 160,000 kilometre test. In practice, that meant the car lost only around eight miles of usable range, a change small enough that you would struggle to notice in daily driving." 272 x .09 = 24.5 miles. Theoretically losing 9% would lose the owner about 25 miles of range, not 8 miles. It is now a 248-mile range EV. This looks like some garbage AI-generated article. Just for the record, I'm not saying that EVs don't have good battery management and degradation. I'm just saying this article was an embarrassing example to stand by.
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I genuinely didn't read anything that said winter range doesn't drop by nearly 40% for "well-made EVs". All it really said is charging is more available than ever with vehicles that can entertain and comfort the passengers while inside waiting. What part of that article says anything about how far they've come and why the fear of winter on the battery pack is overblown?
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Discussion:2026 BMW iX3 Electric SUV Debuts at CES 2026 - 500-Mile Range, 800V Charging, AI Assistant
I don't know why anybody would want to buy a Chinese automobile.
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Random Thoughts Thread
I could justify it for under 30k. I'm sure it's still a "good" vehicle, just nothing worthy of full MSRP in the 60-70k range. But, even at 29k, I still wouldn't be too thrilled about 230 miles of range, because in the winter it'll be nearly cut in half.
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This thing was a bust before any tariffs. It has abysmal range, not enough real storage that minivan buyers want, it tried to be too much of a throwback without adding true minivan capabilities, and it was priced far too high for what it offered. 230 miles of range for something like this is ridiculous. I wanted one once they first showed them, but I wouldn't consider something with that kind of range for 60-70k. Name one reason to buy the VW ID.Buzz over your EV6. Looks..? That's about all it has going for it.
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Discussion:2026 BMW iX3 Electric SUV Debuts at CES 2026 - 500-Mile Range, 800V Charging, AI Assistant
I hate how this looks as of right now. Maybe it will be something that grows on me. I know the current Silverado and HD were hideous to me at the beginning, too, then they grew on me. I'm not sure if this will do that or not, but I don't like it right now. I'm sure the overall package is stellar and up to the latest standards or creating new standards for EVs. Also, BMW needs to get their naming in check (along with Merc). This is silly, IMO; BMW iX3 50 xDrive.
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- Kia News: 2026 Kia K4 Sedan and Hatchback Pricing Announced - Starting at $22,190, 147-HP Base, 190-HP Turbo Available
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Ford News: Ford F-150 Lightning Goes EREV with 700+ Mile Range and Locomotive-Like Towing
Yeah, I don't love the idea of axing the full BEV Lightning. I thoroughly believe it will only be temporarily anyway but still feels wrong to get rid of it now. I understand the whole "extended range" thing is a steppingstone into a full BEV... but it feels unnecessary. Just make an EV with the proper technology to get 300 miles for the small battery and 400-450 miles with a larger battery. Be it battery chemistry (or all of the technology that goes into various things such as the elements and solid-state technology), battery size and/or aerodynamics, but that's what needs to take a leap forward. Maybe more importantly, price. They need to keep prices in check. Only so many people can afford near-100k vehicles regardless of how good the vehicle is.