daves87rs

It is going to be a mess no matter which way you look at it... Something tells me it own't be quiet for long.....

Again, it really doesn't matter. The point here is that car lovers are a dying breed, and 90% of the buying public buys their cars like they buy a toaster. Market it right, offer features that they public wants, and carry a good rep. GM caught up too late in the game- and the party is over. We can blame different reasons- CAFE, the media, the sheeple public.... But the bottome line is change is coming....... Will GM put out some "sporty" cars? In due time, yes. But first they have to make money...now.

Saab can't do poop here, he they keep it , it would be more for Europe and China.....

If so, then so be it... Life moves on....

devil

I still don't understand why people don't understand that these are things that GM needs to do....not because that want to piss you off.... If not, well-there are other car makers elsewhere... There is no way GM can please everyone here....

I'm glad you find that funny....because I don't. Everything comes back...heck, the 80s are back now.... Would rather see this mess continue further, or watch it disappear for a few years (like the Camaro) and come back as a better brand?

Interesting... Yeah, Mothers can be a pain to get off....I was sweating pretty good after a few coats...... Does 3M have a system wax? I think I ma going to try it on the Balt....

Wow...that is quite a bit...

Yes and No. And their is nothing wrong with offering advice, But we we have no control over the bottom line......

And I am going to agree with Von of this too....

I have a feeling the brands we are used to are going to change..... And the product verlap will be ok if all the products look and feel different...and when they have time for more platforms, they will happen....gotta work with what they have now....

Looks Good! I do have a question for you though...do you like 3M better than mothers? I have really good luck with Mothers, but a friend of mine switched over to 3M and he loves it....he wants me to give it a try....

I feel that people fail to realize that there are going to be some major changes, not just at GM, but most all automakers... The next few years are going to make it tough to be a car lover.....

The problem is that GM doesn't have the money to have the variety of products it once had. In lies the overlap....so do we have less brands, or less products?

Dude, I don't think that's cool..I kinda feel like you are calling PCS out.....and that doesn't sit well with me. Hw may work for GM, but he doesn't have control over the product.... Mr. Wagner does. The comsumer does. I understand you are pissed..(as many are), but someone I don't see what good this will do......

Peter

They do.

THe difference is that GM can bring a brand back if they are successful, Toyota cannot. Just because it goes away doesn't mean that it won't come back.....

If something doesn't happen...it's not going to matter much anyways..

Except Saab, I would have to agree with that.... And it is something GM could put together quickly.....

Why should GM care about it's dealerships anymore? If they keeping worrying about them, then the might as well pull the trigger to their head right now. It's about staying in business.GM could really use less dealerships anyways.....if half of them closed, that would be a good thing. It would match what they are selling anyways... (I can see enzl and Carbiz beating me with a yardstick any time now..) Though Saab needs to go...lux cars are going to be on the way out as gas prices go up.. (what moron is going to spend 40-60k on a car, then put 7 buck gas in it?) I pity no brand right now....GM simply has to stay in business. The past means NOTHING now. If it did, they might sell more cars...A few car nuts and some GM employees are not going to keep the front doors open....PCS knows that, I know that. The writing was on the wall-no G6 refresh? Just a G5? A carolla wagon with a Pontiac nose? I don't think GM was planning on investing too much money here.... Then again, the same could be said of Buick and Saab..... AND, there will be some models gone, a la you-know- who........

Hopefully they can do it......

Yeah, then comsumers will treat GM like Kmart/Sears...they will just stop showing up....