PurdueGuy

you didn't see that when it first was on tv? Been a little while. Pretty silly, but a clever commercial from a marketing standpoint. Remember, Toyota marketing doesn't have to have anything to do with reality. lol

112,416 miles is nothin' for a 3800.

Saturn S-Series (Coupe, Sedan, Wagon). I couldn't resist.

We don't really know how they're setting up Spring Hill, so it may be more of a "used to be" as well (unless you know something I don't). Building stuff at the plant sounds more efficient, until the exact same engine or whatnot is needed in cars built in five different plants across the country, in which case economies of scale can play in favor of a centralized assembly plant for major components.

lessee... mom/dad: -grand marquis -silverado brother: -outback (at least it's built in IN where he lives) wife&I: -2 saturn s-series -suburban My brother was suckered by the "outdoorsy" image of the outback & had to have one. He's not real set on any manufacturers, though, so it's never an argument. My parents buy American because that's what they know, and they've had good results (340k+ on previous truck, well over 200k on previous car)

that's a sweet car!

that's some clever advertising. There's something seriously wrong with the speedo on the "loading" page, though. lol

That's pretty crappy.

the styling seems like a natural evolution of the Tiburon styling, which has always seemed a little plain before, but looks pretty good now. While I'm no Hyundai fan, they do deserve credit for how far they've gone in such a short amount of time. They've gone from uber-boring to semi-cool designs and from crap to respectably reliable. I won't buy one, but I can't see people getting made fun of for doing so either.

I didn't pick up on them being sketches of actual concepts that will be revealed later. Sketches of actual concepts = cool. I just get frustrated when all that exists of concepts exists in the virtual realm.

let's do a set of really quick renders with made up stats and pretend they're concepts!

oh goodie! Another "it only exists on a computer" concept! Wow!

It's a shame GM didn't think to work on a home fueling station. Oh wait... http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2006-0...ogen-usat_x.htm Really... how hard is it to make a small electrolysis hydrogen generator? (and of course hook it up to wind or solar power for PR) Sounds straight out of the EV1 history books. IMO, it will mean a TON more when a company offers a fuel cell vehicle for SALE. Honda does deserve credit for this, don't get me wrong - they're making big steps in this field, and will probably keep GM on their toes.

They still are... they're built into every car! Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

chicken fries = ripoff

rear profile looks like a suburban with a fried food binge habit. Front looks like a Tundra. Neither are good, though I don't find it totally repulsive. In fact, it's almost ok. Too bad for Toyota "almost ok" isn't that great when the Tundra/Suburban are both uber-handsome right now.

I'm ok with government: A) helping normalize the economy and preventing shakeups from wrecking the whole thing B) preventing future market bloating from what are/were essentially scams (variable interest loans, etc) I'm not ok with bailouts, which have been talked about. If a bunch of people get free houses on tax dollars because they were stupid enough to get scam loans, my head will implode. Same goes if some companies that were involved in the scamming get bailed out just to save some jobs. Bad things will happen, and gov't action should accept and deal with that, not try to band-aid it back to how it was (bloated). A leaking toilet will not normalize. An economy generally will.

It would be royally stupid for the government to "fix" the housing market. The actions they should have taken would have been years ago, preventing pitfall loans from being allowed. Now the whole housing market is overinflated and becoming a bursting bubble. It's going to be crappy, but necessary for the market to normalize. Some people made bad decisions to get bad loans resulting in bad consequences. That's life, suck it up. And for the people who are losing value in their homes - that was fake value to begin with. I own a home, it's going to affect me too, but a healthy economy is better than a falsely inflated economy from government bailouts, which you & I have to pay for anyway.

drunk elephants are funny. There is a fruit that they sometimes eat that ferments in their stomachs making them drunk. Hilton is a waste of everyone's time.

I'm also active on sixthsphere.com - a saturn tuner site. Problems with the server company prompted the admin to ask if anyone might chip in a little bit toward a dedicated server. Next thing he knew he had over $800 in his paypal account from half the members pitching in a few bucks. This site seems to have a similar level of activity, but members here seem to actually have solid incomes and be willing to spend money on things they like and would like to support (unlike Saturn tuners, who tend to be the cheapest bastards you'll ever meet. lol). If C&G isn't on a dedicated server yet, perhaps a similar move should be made? I would probably pitch in a little bit.

The kicker is that often times home upgrades (insulation, more efficient furnace & water heater, etc) pay for themselves in just a few years' time. The reasons people don't upgrade seem to include: -apathy -lack of money to invest in improvements -lack of education about savings or how to upgrade (feel unsure, thus do nothing) -an over use of an "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality I have a friend that has an old furnace, (I want to say Chrysler?) and just hates to spend the money, even though he would get it back. He bought a corn-burning stove that he installed in his livingroom, cutting a hole in the wall, just to find the price of corn went up, as well as having some problems with fumes. He took it back, has a hole in his wall, and still has his horribly inefficient furnace.

tnx for sharing.

interesting...

the mercury idea isn't bad.