balthazar

2 days ago it was the possible rebirth of Gorematory, in my basement, thru the floor. I dunno, man. Still injesting Rollins rage otherwise.

^ I would agree; stylistically, the 190 is circa 53-54 (everything mainstream had integrated rear fenders by '55), but the 300 stylistically is much older. It still has vestigial running boards, something Cadillac started to minimize in '38 and eliminated entirely by '48. Mercedes was still clinging to them in 60. Here's a '42 Buick; note the similar fender integration, more cohesive body hardware, the break away to the integrated horizontal grille, smooth surface transitions. Much older, yet still ahead of the 300. Mercedes 300 is somewhere around '42-46 by design cues.

Cadillac had hydraulic systems for power accessories in the late '40s, BTW.

Disagree; much more cohesive design, better hardware. Look for example how the holes the 190's horn ring is attached thru are so openly exposed. Mostly to the point- how similar it is to the 190.

>>"...retails for $11,200"<< ^ That's just pure unadulterated gouging.

Nicer interior, better trimmed :

Lot of cheap details. For EX- couldn't MB get a consistent font sizing on the odometer numbers? I mean, really.

I still think this KILLS the Spark dead :

nonono. Crowbarring a 'new' face into an old body generally is like putting Megan Fox's face on Phyllis Diller's body. Or something like that. It NEVER 'settles down' visually for me.

No wait:

2007 toyoyo Hi-CT:

It's not at all unpleasant, just soooo dated. It was starting to look a bit old by '60...the basic design lasted from '51-62. Being basically 20 years behind is far from "a bit behind"...

^ is that a circa '60?? Looks like a circa '42 from this side of the pond. Wonder what their fortunes would look like if mercedees had continued thru to today being 15-20 years behind the market, and was marketing 1990 material today?

WMJ, personal thanks for that last pic. • • • Uhh, not much here to like IMO - spartan, dated, grotesquely underpowered, no amenities, it's a sedan but only fits 4..... might as well get a '60 American; same car.

No, not even from a die-hard Chevy guy; cause it's soooooo true.

^ I would generally agree, esp WRT the era. I would have to give the GTO the nod WRT fRT & RR detailing, but yea. While I think the current Camaro is a really attractive piece, it's a bit overwraught, IMO. I doubt that going smaller next gen is going to help if the same heritage cues are used; at least they generally fit the current size. But there's just nothing tweakable on the Chevelle above- it's prime reason these cars don't get (tasteful) body mods today, as popular as they are. Really nothing to improve upon. There's a snowcone's chance in Hell we'll get back there again.

I haven't been in anything recent. Last one was about an '03 passat- that one had some really awkward ergonomics, namely the seat adjuster wheel on the inner side of the seat- horrible to work (unless you were sitting in the back seat). Hopefully they dropped that long ago.

^ Also what I've read. In '60, it had a very tall (sure looks to be oil bath) air cleaner, but even later when the air cleaner slimmed down, the cars it was in still weren't any lower-hooded than their competition. I believe the lowness of hood never quite came to full realization AFA the necessity of the 30-degree slant. IE: Pontiac worked their OHC I6 into the Banshee concept (yea it had a hood bulge, but it fit) pretty well- a car much lower than any Dart.

Comet (and many others) built 'combinations', where purposely it could be used either way. I see reference that Comet had removable casket rails & seats, where a hearse could easily be transformed into amboolance duty. In '59, Comet marketed a 'blind quarter' model that still was trimmed out/used as a ambulance.

Fan-frickin'-tastic!

The idea that RRs go offload is a laughfest. The water-fording claim is only useful if the dealership service dept goes underwater.

There's precious little 'ultimate' here besides building the industry's worst reliability vehicle money can be wasted on. LR should stop twiddledicking with the superfluous and hire engineers to make the damned thing run for a week straight.

It'd be a real blast to take something over the salt one time.

Hmmm, repaint & jet-black grille makes me think it's hiding some warts. I always wanted to like these '71s, but they don't work for me. The concept of the nose is interesting, but somehow Pontiac made them look like 10" narrower than they are in actuality. I feel cheated.