balthazar

CTS debuted as a 2003, in Jan of 2002, my friend. Cimarron was introduced 05-14-1981. '80 MY :: 231028 '80 CY :: 203992 '81 MY :: 226427 (including 17602 Cimarrons) '81 CY :: 259135 '82 MY :: 235584 (including 8366 Cimarrons) '82 CY :: 246602 '83 was indeed a good year, every series was up, and healthily. Point is, the Cimarron didn't move enough units to 'skyrocket' Cadillac's numbers by itself. They didn't actually skyrocket in the first 2 years. Other factors were at play by '83 (or about 2 years after the Cimarron debuted). Even in '83, the Cimarron only sold 2/3rds of the Seville's volume. It just didn't move the needle.

^ The media is a clueless, swirling vortex of non-think & parroting regurgitation.

uh-oh

A travesty. Jeers.

Car is eat-off-it clean, I'd drive it........ except....... it has no motor. Get a clean, low-miles 425 and slip it in. and what IS it with all those struts?

Cadillac only gained 26K in volume for '81.

Exactly. Look no further than the Corvette; an expensive 2-seat, blistering-fast sports car... the very mention of sales volume other than to state the fact, misses the point by miles. Because it's GM. Google pieces on the BMW 6 and see how often it's called a "failure" because they sell 200/mth or whatever the number is. Let me save you the time: none. Because it's NOT GM.

Not 'right to drive', but 'right to drive what I like'.

I have a feeling that eventually insurance companies will pull something like they do with home insurance... so that if you don't have updated electrical, they won't insure your house. At some point, this logic applied to "features" like ABS, TC, black boxes, etc. will make it difficult to insure a car with standard insurance... relegating older cars to limited mileage collector insurance. Is that somehow NOT a chipping away of personal freedom??

Of course, when insurance Cos 'don't pay more', they 'make more', but point taken. But whether they pay or not does not prevent accidents. Insurance companies should NOT have any access to these recorders. Anyone have a source as to what vehicles have had these since when?

^ This idea is exactly part of the 'sheep mindset', IE: {monotone drone] Big Gov't is a force for good, we love us some more Big Gov't [/montone drone}

Nice, & short WB. Rip off the bed and drive it as a cab/chassis.

I see NO REASON that granting access to privately-owned info (in the BB), should not be accompanied by charges & fees to those who want it, just like every company out there charges the private individual for any type of service. "'We' have received your request for access to 'our' BB's data collection. One-time access fee is $1000, payable in full before data dispersal. 'We' accept PayPal." Someone have an idea as to how Emergency services would find anything a BB collects to be pertinent to medical assistance?

lexus cars are in aesthetic lockstep with MB & BMW. Of course, BMWs & mercedees's are generally bland & non-distinct, too, so we would agree there. veloster is from the 'weird insect' school of car design, and while 12-yr olds may find it 'cool', in general hyundai's overwraught styling is going to age incredibly quick. Which must be why all hyundai dealers push the financing & cash back deals instead of the actual product.

^ Yea- guaranteed that if it's a federal mandate, defeating it will be a federal offense. Odometer fraud/ title fraud/ grand theft are all 3 minimal 3rd degree felony charges in FL, for example. They just pile on & pile on the charges and drown you. The slimebags in DC pedal it as 'helping you' and shove it thru, along with the penalties & charges, likewise to 'help you'. I need to find a clean '64 Cat coupe like NOW and squirrel it away for the ever-creeping Freedom Pinch.

Well that sucks. I didn't think the slow economy had spread to fender-benders. Good luck to you, something will come your way soon!

And the 'tin hats' were murmuring when the whole red light camera thing was pitched as purely safety oriented, too. Since then we've learned that municipalities allowed private companies to rule technicalities at the red light camera intersections irregardless of accepted safety protocols, merely to maximize revenue. Camino- you're dead right: this is another chip off the personal freedom block.

The EXP made a sizable splash with it's advertising, being strikingly graphic in print ads (not that kind of 'graphic'). I think the cars reflected/matched that to a solid degree... But it seems they disappeared relatively quickly; I haven't seen one in over 10 years.

Looks like the 2 could collide gently and inflict no damage.

I had one of these for a short while:

LOT of people seem to believe it's not radical enough. I don't necc. agree it needs to be. IMO, it's a nice stylistic addition to Cadillac, I 'like' it, but would have to see it in person to know if I need to modify that opinion either way. I really do like the current CTS, it still turns my head. Cadillac is a complex walnut for me- I've long been a fan (Cadillacs are what first pulled me into being a car enthusiast). I love so much of the marque's heritage... I think I give Cadillac more slack than perhaps I should WRT the current stuff. I don't know if I can 'trust' my own opinion here.........

^ Right, it should have been LTD III ! 10-4 on it being just 'LTD'. Yikes on the front overhang of the above! Awful- Ford should've moved the wheels out another 10 inches each.

Super clean, but SO stylistically non-descript. Cheers anyway. This is when the other divisions really began 'Cadillac-ing it up', which IMO led to the Fortune magazine cover circa 1985. I had to go look up what 'NightWatch' was: headlight delay for lighting your way to the front door.

WRT Ford cars, the last design that comes to mind that I like is the '63s (full-size & T-bird). I'm lukewarm to repulsed by everything else after that. Merc stopped appealing to me after the F/S '56s, tho a smattering of others are pretty nice ('63, 64, '67-69 Cougar, that's it). Linc Mark III is pretty nice, but the bulk of '70s-80s Mercs, T-birds & Lincolns you can fold into the crusher; horrible. But in the vein of the O/P question.... those '60s designs I never 'saw' regularly, so I didn't even bring them up. Ford current stuff is pretty appealing tho, but again- I'm still seeing them...

There was no FWD LTD. There were 3, all RWD...the fullsize, the midsize ('77-79 LTD II), and the Fox-body one ('83-86). I think a lot of people were misled by the ginormous frontal overhang on the LTD II :